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I'd understand the argument if it was because he himself has the compassion for others that you're asking others to give him. 

 

But considering he's, even just on the surface, a clearly spiteful, nasty, antagonistic liar, who literally has all the compassion of a slum landlord, and hides it all by playing the victim, playing the family man card, and getting his media chums to protect him, it just comes across as obvious hippy dippy nonsense tbh. 

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40 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I'd understand the argument if it was because he himself has the compassion for others that you're asking others to give him. 

 

But considering he's, even just on the surface, a clearly spiteful, nasty, antagonistic liar, who literally has all the compassion of a slum landlord, and hides it all by playing the victim, playing the family man card, and getting his media chums to protect him, it just comes across as obvious hippy dippy nonsense tbh. 

And there’s me thinking it was common human decency towards someone who has fuck all to do with us anymore. Off to pop on a Hawkwind album ?

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1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

And there’s me thinking it was common human decency towards someone who has fuck all to do with us anymore. Off to pop on a Hawkwind album ?

The bloke lacks the common human decency you want others to give him, that's the point. No need to go all Ghandi about it, it's just an internet forum no one's texting him abuse or anything. 

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8 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

And there’s me thinking it was common human decency towards someone who has fuck all to do with us anymore. Off to pop on a Hawkwind album ?

How do you feel about Mike Ashley? 

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1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

He has faced, like lots of us, significant personal loss and, unlike most of us, very public failings

It’s important to remember he very rarely if at all took any personal responsibility for these failings. He’s a snake. He still talks shit about us even after he left. He has zero respect for anyone, let’s not forget his comments about Rafa and the ‘guy that got Bournemouth relegated’ comment. I’m not usually one to feel like that over someone I’ve never met but the guy is just so Unlikeable

 

Might sound a bit extreme but the guy put the premier league future of the club and therefor people’s jobs at stake while he fucked off on holiday while holding out for a massive massive pay off. Compassion? Nah. 

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8 minutes ago, gdm said:

How do you feel about Mike Ashley? 

Hardly the same, a like for like comparison. I hold him responsible for two periods of estrangement/disinterest in NUFC/my club. How do you imagine I feel about him?  In a similar way though I see no point in ranting expletives anymore, or confusing my own feelings/thoughts with facts about him. Personally,  I don’t want to hear of him or be reminded of him other than as a breath of relief that however frustrating it gets, those days are gone. 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I'd understand the argument if it was because he himself has the compassion for others that you're asking others to give him. 

 

But considering he's, even just on the surface, a clearly spiteful, nasty, antagonistic liar, who literally has all the compassion of a slum landlord, and hides it all by playing the victim, playing the family man card, and getting his media chums to protect him, it just comes across as obvious hippy dippy nonsense tbh. 

Absolutely spot on.

 

He's not, for instance, like Steve McClaren. Absolutely fucking shit but didn't come across as an acerbic, vindictive, cockend

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1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Great honest and open interview by Longstaff and fantastic insight into the relationship building in the club plus the wisdom and humanity of Howe. Shame to see it used as another opportunity to Bruce bash. Small plea, based on not nothing else but acknowledgement that he is also a person, a local lad who was an exceptional footballer and has no doubt done his best through a long managerial career. He has faced, like lots of us, significant personal loss and, unlike most of us, very public failings and professional disappointments. If you can’t forgive and feel the need to criticise please save the lack of compassion for the toxically named thread, then those of us who feel uncomfortable about reading such stuff can simply stay away.

 

I absolutely detest the fat hippo twat.

 

Took the piss out of us whilst here and deserved and deserves everything chucked at him.

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Just now, Coffee_Johnny said:

Hardly the a like for like comparison. I hold him responsible for two periods of estrangement/disinterest in NUFC/my club. How do you imagine I feel about him?  In a similar way though I see no point in ranting expletives anymore, or confusing my own feelings/thoughts with facts about him. Personally,  I don’t want to hear of him or be reminded of him other than as a breath of relief that however frustrating it gets, those days are gone. 

But where is your human decency to someone that has nothing to do with us anymore? It’s not black and white is the point. 
 

Let’s even forget about how Bruce performed as a football manager. The man greedily held on for massive reportedly £8m pay off while doing the bare minimum of his job, hiding away in his office during training and fucking off on holiday on an international weekend on more than one occasion and you are asking people to be compassionate for what? He’s doing alright for himself got another cosy job while pocketing £8m for being a lazy cunt.
 

I’m possibly in the minority but I don’t hate Pardew. He at least tried and has talked positively about us since he left 

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all of us on this place do need to reign in the criticism of players at times.

eg some of the abuse Miggy gets on here.

 

it affects them all. i bet joelinton had an absolutely miserable couple of years until he was save by Eddie.

 

Bruce is the exception as he would happily criticise the fans, lie,  and his treatment of the likes of the Longstaffs and Ritchie was disgusting. 

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Put it this way, I disliked Pardew with a passion, I didn't like the football, liked him even less as a person and as the public face of Mike Ashley. 

 

When Steve Bruce came in I stepped away from Newcastle. Rafa leaving and being replaced with a manager I knew was absolutely shit was the last straw for me, I went as far as watching us on Match of the Day and that was it. I didn't pay any attention to what was going on at the club or anything that Steve Bruce was doing and saying. I didn't experience it in anywhere near the same way that I did with Pardew. 

 

When I started paying attention again and saw all of these people talking about how much of an unlikeable person Bruce is I scoffed at it thinking that there's no possible way that he could be anywhere near as unlikeable as Pardew was. The good thing about not having paid any attention is that I can laugh at Bruce, he's pretty hilarious as a character when you can step away from it.

 

Looking into it now, hearing about what he's done, seeing snippets of interviews, the things he's said, the lies he's told, the slum lord stuff, the obvious lack of professionalism, the way him and his failson's gone on, the way he's played the victim - it's pretty clear that he's a total shitbag.

 

Being more unlikeable than Pardew is an incredible achievement like, but fair play to him for managing it. If Pardew was Lyle Lanley from The Simpsons, Bruce is mixture of Lyle Lanley, Grandma from Futurama and Lotso from Toy Story 3. A proper con artist who appears cuddly but is a nasty piece of work beneath it.
 

 

 

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I still absolutely despise Pardew and imagine I always will. Something broke in me during his time here and it’s only just getting fixed now. I do love watching the teary-eyed gif, the jig and some of the other ones where he looks like a wanker, so I’m thankful for those at least. Bruce doesn’t provide any comical reflection though 

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14 minutes ago, huss9 said:

all of us on this place do need to reign in the criticism of players at times.

eg some of the abuse Miggy gets on here.

 

it affects them all. i bet joelinton had an absolutely miserable couple of years until he was save by Eddie.

 

Bruce is the exception as he would happily criticise the fans, lie,  and his treatment of the likes of the Longstaffs and Ritchie was disgusting. 

It's not helped by the internets nature of encouraging exaggeration and enabling people to be twats.

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3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I still absolutely despise Pardew and imagine I always will. Something broke in me during his time here and it’s only just getting fixed now. I do love watching the teary-eyed gif, the jig and some of the other ones where he looks like a wanker, so I’m thankful for those at least. Bruce doesn’t provide any comical reflection though 

 

The SSN presenter reeling off the insults that Bruce had told he'd been called was comedy gold like, I couldn't stop laughing at that. 

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