Kanj Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, greydos said: All these people saying he won’t be here when we’re top 4 are so forgetful. Serial title-winning Manure had no-skill grafters like John O’Shea, Wes Brown and Phil Neville regularly contributing amongst the stardust players. As far as I can see there’s still room in football for dedicated grafters with narrow focus, like Fred at Manure now. Longstaff’s here for the next 5 years at least in my book don’t see him leaving ever. As long as he has engine he’s a useful player who can play many roles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Probably a bit more confident, maybe a bit to do with Fulham not pressing as well as other teams (like Leeds did). You can't fault his effort and he is fantastic off the ball. But I'd be amazed if he is still about if we become a top 4 staple. Unless there is major, sustained improvement. Even when we’re regularly doing the quadruple, I see no reason he can’t be around the squad. Local boy, hard working grafter type. Basically in the role Matt Ritchie currently holds. But slightly more useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Never had a problem with (above) average squad players being available to come in and put a proper shift in. Yes, he might be no Bruno or Big Joe, but he's committed to the cause. If we're going to compete on 3 or 4 fronts in the next 5 years, we're going to need a deep squad. He's also part of our homegrown quota. My issue is more with players like Dummett who aren't even available when required. Edited January 15, 2023 by BlazeT44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kanji said: He gets more stick than anyone in our team. One missed pass and it’s remembered in full detail on here. Yeah, this is definitely the case. He's not a favoured player, so gets harsher treatment. The inverse happens for the favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Yeah, I've gone too far saying he won't be around. Would probably still be here in the squad for all the reasons people have said. Dunno if he is remotely close in ability to Butt at Manchester United though. JOS is perhaps a better example, but I almost feel like it is easier to hide a poorer footballer at the back. Longstaff has a harder task to stick about, basically. Edited January 15, 2023 by David Edgar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 He definitely gets harsher treatment than most players in the team, he works really hard and does his role really well. hopefully he can add some more end product to his shots and passes in future games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, Smal said: I thought during the game that he was exceptional but I’m shocked at the data. He’s never been as good with his passing as he was today. I'm not in the least bit surprised by that data. That was the best performance I've seen from him, particularly in the first half. He passed the ball quickly, and with positive intent. It's really great to see this previously hesitant young player put in such a confident, all-round performance. Sorry, but so many on here are talking about the performance that they were expecting to see, not the one that he actually delivered today. I think we're going to be without Bruno for a few games, but this lad is ready to step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Was a lot better second half when he played a bit deeper. It also helped the team seems bit more fluid, when he got a pass he was able to release or play a 1-2 to get things going. Hoping he finds his shooting boots soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 hours ago, joeyt said: Shame his shooting has turned dreadful Tbf, he might just be going through a bad spell. Eddie will be happy that he's still getting in positions to score. Not beyond imagination that he could score two or three important goals in the coming months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 He’s too slow in everything. Decision making,playing the ball. His position is the first we need to upgrade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Same comment as always. Decent player for the most part, on and off the ball, across 70-80 yards or so. Just seems to go to shit whenever he gets near the box. Snatching at chances, wanting too long to make a decision, not on his toes when the ball comes his way etc. Think he’s going to be playing deeper for a while. Hoping it might suit him. As he was better sitting in today, I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Same comment as always. Decent player for the most part, on and off the ball, across 70-80 yards or so. Just seems to go to shit whenever he gets near the box. Snatching at chances, wanting too long to make a decision, not on his toes when the ball comes his way etc. Think he’s going to be playing deeper for a while. Hoping it might suit him. As he was better sitting in today, I thought. Good point. Probably the first sensible thing you've said all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Cronky said: I'm not in the least bit surprised by that data. That was the best performance I've seen from him, particularly in the first half. He passed the ball quickly, and with positive intent. It's really great to see this previously hesitant young player put in such a confident, all-round performance. Sorry, but so many on here are talking about the performance that they were expecting to see, not the one that he actually delivered today. I think we're going to be without Bruno for a few games, but this lad is ready to step up. Bout time this was highlighted. I've said my thoughts in the other thread. Do I think he'll start regularly in 2 seasons time - no. Is he good enough to be a squad player and play when needed - yes. if he a top 4 PL player? Well he currently is. He get's so much shit, from so called fans, he's played a critical part getting us to 3rd in the league and has also protected the best back 4 in Europe through selfless work. He could do with speeding up his footwork a little and learn how to hit the target more consistently, otherwise he's doing great - give the lad a break! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Thought he was good today & really glad he delivered the cross that lead to the goal. He would still be out there running now if we needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I'm usually a defender of him anyway but thought he was really good today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Shearer saying exactly what most of us have said, that if he works on his finishing he can be an unbelievable midfielder. It would be huge like, he gets 2 or 3 chances on average a game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Tbf that challenge that blocked his shot was absolutely top draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Despite me and @McCormick fearing it, he played the base of a midfield 3 pretty well. Kept the ball moving quickly. Doubt Shelvey would’ve done any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 There’s a reason Eddie Howe has him as one of the first names on the team sheet. He’s a work horse and he’s regaining his confidence by the week, a couple of goals will do wonders for him. He’s one of those players who’s easy to dismiss as someone who’s easily replaceable/upgradable, but that work rate would be missed in any team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Thought he stepped up massively in the second half as the 6 in place of Bruno and then got even better in the double pivot, when he had an awful lot to do. His goals will come back. His shooting was always a strength when he was coming through and out on loan, that just doesn’t disappear. Head’s just totally gone at the minute, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I am so pleased for Sean that Shearer highlighted his performance today, and in particular the way he praised his passing. This lad is not just a workhorse who covers the ground. I looked at the player ratings after the game on the BBC website, and he'd been voted our worst player, by some distance. That is just plain daft. It worried me that a young player who has found his form might see something like that and get discouraged. Anyway, I'm sure he'll have got a real boost from Al's comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Key to our current success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Think that’s laying it on a big thick. A lot of fans are praising him and seeing what he brings to the team. He’s a clever player, great movement, amazing work rate, great defensive contribution too. He’s close to being the key to our success if he can contribute more balls in like the cross today or if he can start getting shots on target more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggmarket Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 He's doing ok but let's be honest, another couple of transfer windows and he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 What would Shearer and Howe know eh...local lad who loves the club get's shit weekly shocker. Just replace Longstaff for Burn and theres a theme. Not exactly what some folk expect or want. One of the best defences in the world and a top 3 performing Midfield. Both need replacing asap! Mental! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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