worthy Posted May 12, 2024 Share Posted May 12, 2024 1 hour ago, jack j said: Should have been 3. Cant believe he missed that header from 2 yards out I just dont understand him. He makes intelligent runs in to the box. But he also often chooses the worst option or can’t hit the ball cleanly. And then there is moments of great play and then back to just falling over every time someone so much as breath in his direction. He is quite confusing to say the least. And wasn’t the worst performer yesterday but the football brain just isn’t there it seems like, and then he just has a spark of luck. I don’t know man, I was a super OTT critic. But after really looking at his game I feel it’s like an overthinking issue, well that and being too slow technically with the ball. Either way, he won’t be starting much after this season and I think it will do him a world of good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ginola Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Appreciate the effort he's put in over the past couple of years but I can't wait for him not to be in the first XI again. It's not just the misses, inability to head the ball or find a simple final pass that were all on show tonight, it's basic stuff like not showing to receive the ball back after passing to a teammate rather than standing stationary like a gaumless fuck. Could not be further from the quality we need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Don’t really praise players for putting effort in tbh, it’s the minimum requirement. He’s an extremely poor player, he would be the first out the door this summer for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 5th/6th choice CM being played due to injury and suspension, can't really get too upset about his mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 (edited) I think by now we can see this is as good as Longstaff will become as a player. Score the odd goal and maybe once in a blue moon put in a decent game. To think we thought he was better than Declan Rice when he first came through Edited May 15, 2024 by 1892er Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhSholaAmeobi Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Dreadfully average player. You can see the other players don't give the ball to him when there's another player near him, because he doesn't look before receiving the ball and is completely incapable under pressure. He also never knows what to do with the ball when he gets it, and is powderpuff in every challenge. I'd sell immediately come summer. Miley and Anderson are already better than him technically and Anderson is stronger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 7 minutes ago, Beth said: 5th/6th choice CM being played due to injury and suspension, can't really get too upset about his mediocrity. Partially true, although I suspect he is second choice right-sided CM based on selection at the start of the season. We're inundated with midfielders that Howe doesn't seem to want to play on that side for whatever reason. It's obvious he isn't good enough though, aye. You'd be going quite far down the table to find another team he'd play regularly for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhSholaAmeobi Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 7 minutes ago, 1892er said: I think by now we can see this is as good as Longstaff will become as a player. Score the odd goal and maybe once in a blue moon put in a decent game. To think we thought he was better than Declan Rice when he first came through Who thought that? I thought he was technically more capable than Diame and Hayden, which he was, and a good grafter. Mark Noble level tops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 He’s infuriating. His passing is abysmal. Always pops up in great spaces and then fucks it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, OhSholaAmeobi said: Who thought that? I thought he was technically more capable than Diame and Hayden, which he was, and a good grafter. Mark Noble level tops. I'm pretty sure the consensus on here at the time was he was better than Rice or on at least on par. Might be mistaken though. Think it was around about the time we beat Man City in 2019 under Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 20 minutes ago, Jordan said: He’s infuriating. His passing is abysmal. Always pops up in great spaces and then fucks it. Well he's scored 6 goals tbf, that's not awful. He just isn't a good footballer aside from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, TRon said: Well he's scored 6 goals tbf, that's not awful. He just isn't a good footballer aside from that. He's not a good footballer(at the level we are aiming) but he is a workhorse. Unfortunately though he's going g to be left behind where we are going (he knows it too). No need for anyone to slag him off, he's black and white through and gives his all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, madras said: He's not a good footballer(at the level we are aiming) but he is a workhorse. Unfortunately though he's going g to be left behind where we are going (he knows it too). No need for anyone to slag him off, he's black and white through and gives his all Effort is the absolute minimum that should be required. If he is weak at something, address it. Use extra hours to train. The best players don't just stop after training and that's that, no they keep on even if everyone else go home. Im sorry but his passing, his positioning, his reaction time and his weakness 1v1 and finishing is something he could have worked on his all career, it just seems like he either don't know how to improve or the coaches on the training pitch don't know how to shape the players. I don't know what it is, but he is a bad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, madras said: He's not a good footballer(at the level we are aiming) but he is a workhorse. Unfortunately though he's going g to be left behind where we are going (he knows it too). No need for anyone to slag him off, he's black and white through and gives his all Agree, I wouldn't slag him off. Not sure if you are referring to my comments, I just gave him some credit for getting 6 goals and said what you did about him not being a very good footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 He's apparently been playing with a knock for a long time, which is testament to his attitude and love for the club. That said, he's been found wanting on a good few occasions this season. Perhaps Eddie should have taken him out of the firing line more, but felt unable to? I'm far from a Longstaff hater - he''s a good squad option, but if the club is to progress - better players than him needed for the first XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 My heart sinks when he misses like he did tonight. It’s criminal the amount of very good chances that come to nothing. For someone who isn’t great on the ball he could make up for it if he was a quality finisher but alas he’s not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, TRon said: Agree, I wouldn't slag him off. Not sure if you are referring to my comments, I just gave him some credit for getting 6 goals and said what you did about him not being a very good footballer. Probably not yours but the slaggings off he gets in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 How many central midfielders do we reckon have had multiple games in a Premier League season where they haven't made a tackle, interception, block, or clearance? I've legitimately never seen a central midfielder not be involved in a duel until tonight, either. Fucking pathetic, injury or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 He's got 8 goals in all comps. It's a good return, shows genuine improvement on previous seasons. It's a skill in itself to keep getting chances even if you miss them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 just no self-belief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, ponsaelius said: He's got 8 goals in all comps. It's a good return, shows genuine improvement on previous seasons. It's a skill in itself to keep getting chances even if you miss them. His movement is the best part of his game in an attacking sense but we create a lot more chances than most sides and he’s the one on the end of a ton. I’d be interested to know what his xG is and how much he’s underperforming this season and previously. You cannot rely on him to score in positions where he should and that’s just not good enough even though his goal return isn’t awful on face value Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 He just isn't very good. Can't be loyal to him because he's a Geordie and 'he's a great lad' or 'good in the dressing room' or whatever. He should not be starting the bulk of our league games next season. Against a shithole suburb of Ljubljana if we can manage to beat the team that's 16th away from home on Sunday, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, Rich said: How many central midfielders do we reckon have had multiple games in a Premier League season where they haven't made a tackle, interception, block, or clearance? I've legitimately never seen a central midfielder not be involved in a duel until tonight, either. Fucking pathetic, injury or not. Said it all season, he just hovers around the general area where the ball is without getting involved. He's just there in the background most of the time, when it does fall his way his control often lets him down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhSholaAmeobi Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 5 minutes ago, Rich said: How many central midfielders do we reckon have had multiple games in a Premier League season where they haven't made a tackle, interception, block, or clearance? I've legitimately never seen a central midfielder not be involved in a duel until tonight, either. Fucking pathetic, injury or not. He plays the exact same way when 'injury-free' so I don't buy it either. Even if he doesn't have the ability at least be hard in the tackle like Anderson is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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