Sean Longstaff

[SteV]

14 hours ago, toontownman said:

I read the quotes more that Longstaff is likely seeking an exit knowing his starting days are largely numbered here.

 

I'm ok with him leaving and wish him the best but how many academy home grown do we have that we could put in to help the European quota?

 

Gillespie and Miley count. But I suppose maybe adding Sean Neave/Ben Parkinson/Anthony Munda would get around it too? They first two have been in the first team squads and Munda has been tipped for a while to break through.

 

Doesn’t work like that.

 

All of the players under 21 go onto a ‘List B’ and don’t contribute to the homegrown requirements of ‘List A’. 
 

But to be honest, it’s not a must that you comply, all that happens is your squad allowance is reduced by the number of HG players you fail to comply by. So the absolute worst case scenario is that we would only be allowed a 21 man squad instead of a 25 man squad (although in reality it would be a 21 man squad plus Miley and all the other kids).

edit - I think Lewis Hall would still be on List B for next season.

 

 

Edited April 5 by SteV

[SteV]

31 minutes ago, andycap said:

I wonder if we have a clause in elliot andersons contract to bring him back for a set price? 

That way Sean going won't be such a big deal. 

Don’t think we were in any kind of position to be negotiating those kind of clauses.

[andycap]

2 hours ago, SteV said:

Don’t think we were in any kind of position to be negotiating those kind of clauses.

Just with it looking like Howe seems to think Sean could go. 

[Stifler]

16 hours ago, TRC said:

Wouldn’t be surprised to see him go to Toronto FC

I think he was certain to go there, but Herdman left.

[OptimusSlime]

I think he gets unfairly slated (as Burn has too in the past).  Always pained me to see Steve Watson and Lee Clark so solid jobs against us for like likes of Everton, Villa and Fulham.

 

We need a squad and if Sean is happy with that role we should be happy to keep him.  I think of the likes of Darren Fletcher for Man U way back, not first choice, behind better players but loyal and does a job when needed.

[Displayname]

Think he needs to go somewhere else. Not a player you can just sub in when you need him, needs to be playing regular to get his confidence up. Not much use in his current role here.

[Ronaldo]

In what effing scenario would we want Sean Longstaff stepping in for Tonali, Jo or Bruno? He’s got pretty much all their individual weaknesses and none of the strengths.

If we’re going to have a 6th choice CM on the books I’d rather it be someone with ability to influence games and get better.

[ponsaelius]

Yeah I like Longstaff and genuinely glad he's been part of the cup winning squad but the lad has proven far too often now to be a bad rotation player. He really does struggle in particular when he's dropped into the odd game or coming off the bench. Plus he's at an age now that he's probably not going to improve. 

 

It's the right time to move him on. Last time you're going to get to a fee. I think Eddie knows it too given he's barely played. As with Almiron it feels like the writing is on the wall.

 

It may be that the right sided player we move for is somebody who can also play central. 

 

 

Edited April 5 by ponsaelius

[buzza]

If we are getting 20M for Kelly, surely we would Get similar for Longstaff...

Bring Gomes in to replace him, good tricky midfielder although a tad lightweight

 

 

Edited April 5 by buzza

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, OptimusSlime said:

I think he gets unfairly slated (as Burn has too in the past).  Always pained me to see Steve Watson and Lee Clark so solid jobs against us for like likes of Everton, Villa and Fulham.

 

We need a squad and if Sean is happy with that role we should be happy to keep him.  I think of the likes of Darren Fletcher for Man U way back, not first choice, behind better players but loyal and does a job when needed.

Theres doing a job against as mid table at best sides, then needing him to be for a top 4 push which after this season is where our focus needs to be regularly.

[Norseman]

I know he's a local lad and all and a great lad by all accounts, but it's probably best for all parties that he leaves this summer. He doesn't really offer anything more than hard work these days and we need midfielders who can affect games more.

[WilliamPS]

54 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

In what effing scenario would we want Sean Longstaff stepping in for Tonali, Jo or Bruno? He’s got pretty much all their individual weaknesses and none of the strengths.

If we’re going to have a 6th choice CM on the books I’d rather it be someone with ability to influence games and get better.

I take your point but we’re talking 6th choice here - that means not always making even the bench when everyone is fit, except for a real youngster it’s not an attractive offer to many players.

 

The squad could really do with another top level CM as agree the drop off is too big, but I’d be fine with Longstaff being 6th choice.
 

Although perhaps it’s time for a move for his sake really.

[Lush Vlad]

6th choice or not. We play 3 CM’s. So 1-2 injuries or suspensions and he’d be starting games if we’re in Europe and stay in cups. He’s shown he’s not really the sort to just play here and there or come on and impact a game. Plus he is also only really suited to a certain style and against certain opposition. 
 

It sounds incredibly harsh to type it out. But we’ve moved past players like Longstaff IMO. At least we should have, if we want to progress to that next level. 
 

I hate all the PSR stuff and don’t fully understand it. But it’s also the last window to get any money for him, he gets us pure profit and he turns 28 in October. 
 

Not sure why anyone would want him to stay other than sentimentality and because he’s a local lad. Unlike Burn, who has gone from strength to strength. It feels a bit like Longstaff has regressed/we’ve progressed and he’s stayed the same. 

 

 

Edited April 6 by Lush Vlad

[St1pe]

I think the only way I’d consider keeping him is if we’re going big in the summer so we’re restricted by PSR and we only qualify for the conference league. There’ll be loads of shit games in that and we’ll need bodies for it. 
 

We need a RW, CB, Striker and maybe even a full back of Trippier doesn’t stay. It could be hard to upgrade Longstaff if we go hard on the other positions. 
 

Europa League or Champions League then he’s got to be upgraded also or we’ll suffer. 

[jackyboy]

Used him in a makeweight to get that Braithwaite lad at Everton

[huss9]

we need money.

we have to become better sellers.

[Heron]

Guy single handedly won us our first domestic cup in 70 years and we're just desperately trying to sell him...

 

 

Edited April 6 by Heron

[wyn davies]

1 minute ago, Heron said:

Guy single handedly won us our first domestic cup in 70 years and we're just desperately trying to sell him...

 

 

 

Look what happened when we could of sold Callum, would of helped us out, need to shift players, can't keep going in the manner we are.

[Newcastle Fan]

The instant drop in quality when he comes on tells you all you need to know really, love him as a person and a servant for our club but with Miley stepping up i think his time here is coming to an end.

[Yorkie]

We all know it but I think tonight might have been the ultimate evidence of how we've moved on from the likes of Longstaff, and he really needs to move on for the good of his career. After watching Tonali and Bruno move the ball around the pitch with style and quality, to Longy failing to get the ball out of his feet comfortably, was such a contrast. 

 

It would be really cool to see him go abroad to a slower paced league. There's still a career for him in a top division, he just has to be a regular starter. And his place in the NUFC history books is assured; he contributed a lot between 22-24.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Shite

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He's pap, always has been, but I respect how hard he's worked during a really grim time for the club. 

 

I think his career has already peaked with playing in the PL really, but Yorkie is right that he could maybe find more comfort playing in a slower league away from the limelight. 

[Jonas]

No pleasure in saying it but looks completely out his depth. Looks like McClen in there now.

[Pilko]

I've always been a big defender of Sean but I do think he's reaching a natural endgame here. Perfect time to move on this summer, I still think he'd be a great addition for a bottom-half side and could establish himself in one of those teams.

[Drewboy74]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

We all know it but I think tonight might have been the ultimate evidence of how we've moved on from the likes of Longstaff, and he really needs to move on for the good of his career. After watching Tonali and Bruno move the ball around the pitch with style and quality, to Longy failing to get the ball out of his feet comfortably, was such a contrast. 

 

It would be really cool to see him go abroad to a slower paced league. There's still a career for him in a top division, he just has to be a regular starter. And his place in the NUFC history books is assured; he contributed a lot between 22-24.

A very eloquent way to put it. Some of the shite that gets hoyed at him is unnecessary. 5 nil up and he's getting flack. I still think he will come good though.