Nattfare Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I've never seen Schär write any letters after a humiliating defeat, so Colo wins on that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Schar is our best ball playing CB we've ever had and I would counter argue that his long and short passing ability + his shooting/penalties add to that. Colo was a fantastic dribbler but don't recall him creating anything from his passing or carrying, there wasn't reverse passes like Botman or Schar, there wasn't aggressive diagonals etc. Colo the footballer, reader of game, etc clearly more easy on the eye but I don't really think he'd be able to handle some of today's footballers. JUST my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Nice little clip show some of Colo’s game. Think surround by this defence and midfield he’d have no problems at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 25/09/2023 at 19:45, TheBrownBottle said: Schar better than Woodgate? Nowt like getting carried away after a big win Woodgate is still the best all round centre back I've ever seen playing for us. When he was fit and up and running, he had everything. I like Coloccini as well, but he wasn't at that level. Still easily one of our best players during the Ashley era, although I guess that's not saying much. He might have come out second best to one or two strikers, but Schar has done the same. It's Botman who is the rock in our defence, when he's not there, Schar looks far less sure of himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Woodgate is still the best all round centre back I've ever seen playing for us. When he was fit and up and running, he had everything. I like Coloccini as well, but he wasn't at that level. Still easily one of our best players during the Ashley era, although I guess that's not saying much. He might have come out second best to one or two strikers, but Schar has done the same. It's Botman who is the rock in our defence, when he's not there, Schar looks far less sure of himself. Got to say Botman is up there with Woodgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, madras said: Got to say Botman is up there with Woodgate. He might turn out to be even better, but I'm just giving Woodgate the nod on experience and nous at this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, TRon said: Woodgate is still the best all round centre back I've ever seen playing for us. When he was fit and up and running, he had everything. I like Coloccini as well, but he wasn't at that level. Still easily one of our best players during the Ashley era, although I guess that's not saying much. He might have come out second best to one or two strikers, but Schar has done the same. It's Botman who is the rock in our defence, when he's not there, Schar looks far less sure of himself. All 28 games of it. It’s a real shame he didn’t play more for us as he was absolute mustard, but that amount of games is shocking. Genuinely think it paints a better picture of him (Woodgate) due to the amount of games he didn’t play…whilst Botman has racked up 50 already. Schar is great but Botman is head and shoulders (literally and physically) above Schar. And they quite clearly work very very well together. We need an understudy to Schar in this Jan/Summer window that’s for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Just now, mattypnufc said: All 28 games of it. It’s a real shame he didn’t play more for us as he was absolute mustard, but that amount of games is shocking. Genuinely think it paints a better picture of him (Woodgate) due to the amount of games he didn’t play…whilst Botman has racked up 50 already. Schar is great but Botman is head and shoulders (literally and physically) above Schar. And they quite clearly work very very well together. We need an understudy to Schar in this Jan/Summer window that’s for sure. Not going to disagree with any of that, Woodgate was useless for us for vast periods of his time here, but when he was there he took us to the champions league, and we got some pretty great results against some mighty European teams on the back of his class. He was probably the only defender who could make Titus Bramble look like a champion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Appreciate that the game has changed, but for some reason Woodgate's performance in that game v. Marseilles in 2004 (which ended 0-0 but he kept Drogba in his pocket) will always be one of the best CB showings I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Albert? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, toon25 said: Appreciate that the game has changed, but for some reason Woodgate's performance in that game v. Marseilles in 2004 (which ended 0-0 but he kept Drogba in his pocket) will always be one of the best CB showings I've ever seen. He was shit. Drogba ran him ragged you haven’t a clue what you’re going on about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, huss9 said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, LFEE said: Nice little clip show some of Colo’s game. Think surround by this defence and midfield he’d have no problems at all. Does it omit the dozen or so times we lost 4-0+ when he threw the towel in? I liked Colo a lot for a while but post 2013 he was garbage. An easy mark CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: get away, man. its class....."like a maradona at the back!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Love to know what Pep was saying to him before he came on. They seemed to have a few words Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) ? Edited September 30, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 he’s class schar, proper player. always gives 100%, never backs out and gets battered constantly haha.. love him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 26/09/2023 at 22:58, TRon said: Not going to disagree with any of that, Woodgate was useless for us for vast periods of his time here, but when he was there he took us to the champions league, and we got some pretty great results against some mighty European teams on the back of his class. He was probably the only defender who could make Titus Bramble look like a champion. Apart from when we lost 2-6 man utd. That was a bad day at the office for both of them. Bramble obviously more common Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just give him the Ballon D'or Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 God among men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 As soon as he went to hit that I was thinking how much he deserved it. What a player. What a performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 What a player this bloke is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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