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that must have surely been when they were developing one of the stands, when the kop was out?

 

same for that manyoo crowd?

 

EDIT: aye

 

"Liverpool's all-time Premier League low attendance is 22,519 against vacuum icons Wimbledon in October 1994 but this was a) against Wimbledon and b) in a period when the Kop was being turned into an all-seater stand."

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that must have surely been when they were developing one of the stands, when the kop was out?

 

same for that manyoo crowd?

 

Man Utd capacity was 32k when they got 29k v Crystal Palace. They also posted a crowd of 19k at Old Trafford that season but that was for a UEFA Cup game. Liverpool's capacity never dropped anywhere near as low as 22k either, even during the Kop redevelopment.

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As admirable as our gate size is, the loyalty of Geordies and Toon fans in general has always been something owners and directors since day one have regularly gotten away with taking the piss out of, because they knew no matter what, fans would always go and turn up to see those in black and shite play and pay to do so.

 

Right now, for thousands, you’d have to pay them to go which is effectively what Ashley is doing and that for me is the ultimate piss take, because NUFC like every single other club from formation could only exist and survive because people of their towns and cities were more than willing to even pay to watch their team play if that’s what it took and that wasn’t some clever business strategy to commercialise the sport and clubs. It was an essential co-operative deal to survive.

 

Paying to watch footy all stemmed from fans more than happy to pay their subs so to speak originally so they had a club to go and watch at least which was worth shelling out on to have rather than not having a clubs at all, whatever the cost. You couldn’t put a price on how much people would pay to support their club. Even today thousands spend half their weekly wage on supporting their team every week and the last time I went with my two boys, it cost me close to £100 for tickets, food, beverages and programmes and that was to watch a 3rd round FA Cup game at home to Luton, which 40k others also paid to see their team in action.

 

All of which, in a commercial sense as a business places the cost of having a Newcastle United to follow a high price worth paying at figures higher than the cost most pay to go to work and back each week, or the cost of a weeks worth of shopping, gas and electric, or what some pay to rent their homes.

 

That’s the real commercial value of NUFC or used to be, now the value of a going to watch a game is worth, well fuck all. Well done Mike, you genius businessman, you’ve successfully turned something people would be prepared to spend half their wages on just to watch their team managed by Alan Pardew lose at Craven Cottage to Fulham or could sell an extra 10k tickets so people could join in and sing We want you to stay to some fat Spanish waiter who couldn’t stop their club being relegated, into a club that can’t sell 10k tickets for even 1 pence.

 

Honestly, I’d want paid for 90 minutes of my time to watch that pile of crap, and I’d want a lot more than I can earn in 90 minutes at work.

 

Before Ashley, you couldn’t buy my 90 minutes of my time off of me from watching the Toon. Supporting your team is priceless, spending the same money on something else just couldn’t compare.

 

To think right now, what I’d be willing to pay just to watch us home and away for the 5 years of KK’s 92-96 team. To be there every game, for all of it, I was lucky enough to be there for a few games, to be around the city, the fans and to watch us almost every game on telly, to see them train in person a few times, to get the kit, programmes, videos, magazines, to be in there first with I’m Andy Cole when playing singles or doubles. Even if my mum had the money for a season ticket, I don’t think I’d have got one as I’d be in a lottery with thousands of others.

 

I was just happy to get the odd ticket to watch a beam back at the Odeon who themselves were selling season tickets and sold out every game shown. The club could have sold season tickets for strips and they would have sold out.

 

And now, every single person who has paid for a season ticket, you mugs, all you had to do was wait a few months and you’d get it for free. I bet you’d be able to get a free Sports Direct Mug thrown in too if you told them you’d have to reconsider otherwise.

 

Desperate, embarrassing, free ticket Mags. Sell Out? It’s not the owner who is cheap, but fans who Ashley can buy out for nowt, what cost to your club though. They have lost all rights to ever complain, because they value the club even less than Ashley, it’s worth nothing to them all, but worth something to him at least as long as he can buy people for nowt. Is that how much you value yourselves, is that how much your club is only worth to you, if it’s not costing you anything? Selfish bastards who have cost our city and people and fans the world over the loss of what money can’t put a value on, our beloved club. It’s dead now, that’s it, if the only way to keep those seats warm and get people to go is by charging nothing, the message need not be any more clearer, not that anyone needs reminded.

 

I’d want half my money back at least and I guarantee if you threaten to not renew next season, they’ll give you a full season ticket and half a season ticket for the price of a full one just to keep your custom.

 

It’s getting harder to work out who is the most thickest, the owner or the fans, I’m calling it a draw for now with 0 zero shots on target. But 53k fans went home happy enough.

 

How many times did they leave unhappy when Rafa was in charge. 600 quid gets you a tiny extra number of points more after the same number of games from this time last year, Andy Carrol on a free, higher up in the table than at the same point of last season and a Geordie manager. Ashley is giving tickets away at that price given what fans get in return.

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Slowly drip feeding the for sale/in talks with a buyer shite again. I watched the game on Bein Sports at the weekend and the two former disgraced anti Rafa Bruce loving pro Ashley Sky employees were hinting the sale of the club is ongoing and that someone is at the data room stage of negotiations. Fuck off! In reality, an Ashley hush hush appointed Kenyon is hawking the club around to anyone daft enough to pay the asking price and accept Mike’s conditions, which Kenyon is hoping he’ll be at the head of it all and if not, he’ll have his golden handshake off of Mike anyway. He’s that desperate, he’ll loan anyone the money to buy the club off him...

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Slowly drip feeding the for sale/in talks with a buyer shite again. I watched the game on Bein Sports at the weekend and the two former disgraced anti Rafa Bruce loving pro Ashley Sky employees were hinting the sale of the club is ongoing and that someone is at the data room stage of negotiations. Fuck off! In reality, an Ashley hush hush appointed Kenyon is hawking the club around to anyone daft enough to pay the asking price and accept Mike’s conditions, which Kenyon is hoping he’ll be at the head of it all and if not, he’ll have his golden handshake off of Mike anyway. He’s that desperate, he’ll loan anyone the money to buy the club off him...

 

Ooh, "data room stage". Just another week until we reach the pissing about for a month stage.

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"I will confirm that I’ve had conversations with Mike Ashley’s top representative. I would describe those conversations as very positive. I would say Mike Ashley and his team are a lot easier and a lot friendlier and business savvy than anyone gives them credit for. We’re still talking. I’m not sure we’re going to reach an agreement, but that’s certainly not because of either side’s intractability or unwillingness to move forward"

 

How does he make them say this every time?  :lol:

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