Guest Butcher Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 He’s right unfortunately. (Well nearer 43 but still s****). 49, 39, 37, 44, 45. We won the championship with one of those points totals? And SB finished 32 points behind us After spending nearly £14m more! We had the most expensive squad in Championship history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Since he walked through the door he seems like a really nice bloke and the players speak highly of him, but the way he has left clubs in the shit in the past speaks volumes about him as a person A Wigan supporting friend of mine told me that when he left them for the first time to go to Crystal Palace, in his CP press conference, when asked why he left Wigan, said "Why shop at Asda when you can shop at Waitrose" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'm actually impressed that he's shown any inclination for detail. I mean it's not exactly cutting edge stuff, but for someone who seems to have almost no reputation for the more technical aspects of coaching or methods, it's something. Reputations can sometimes be based on assumptions though. How much do we really know about his coaching methods? Kind of the point isn't it? If he had any decently effective methods, then surely players/pundits/colleagues would be highlighting lauding them? Rafa had a reputation for attention to detail and drilling methods into players Klopp likes high energy pressing... Guardiola likes his players to make a pass or two... Wilder goes for rigid team discipline with hard workers Wenger wanted players to pass the ball until two yards from goal Fergie just scared the hell out of everyone so his team won All i see from Bruce is let the other team have the ball, hope they make a mistake and let ASM/Almiron/Joelinton run 40/50 yards with the ball to see if they can beat the keeper. Most decent managers have at least one decent and memorable team through their career. I can't really think of any for Bruce. Birmingham with Dugarry maybe? Possibly that Wigan team that fluked their way to the final then got hammered by the first good team they played? Robson liked pace and directness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'm actually impressed that he's shown any inclination for detail. I mean it's not exactly cutting edge stuff, but for someone who seems to have almost no reputation for the more technical aspects of coaching or methods, it's something. Reputations can sometimes be based on assumptions though. How much do we really know about his coaching methods? Kind of the point isn't it? If he had any decently effective methods, then surely players/pundits/colleagues would be highlighting lauding them? Rafa had a reputation for attention to detail and drilling methods into players Klopp likes high energy pressing... Guardiola likes his players to make a pass or two... Wilder goes for rigid team discipline with hard workers Wenger wanted players to pass the ball until two yards from goal Fergie just scared the hell out of everyone so his team won All i see from Bruce is let the other team have the ball, hope they make a mistake and let ASM/Almiron/Joelinton run 40/50 yards with the ball to see if they can beat the keeper. Most decent managers have at least one decent and memorable team through their career. I can't really think of any for Bruce. Birmingham with Dugarry maybe? Possibly that Wigan team that fluked their way to the final then got hammered by the first good team they played? Robson liked pace and directness Paul Jewell was manager of Wigan in that final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'm actually impressed that he's shown any inclination for detail. I mean it's not exactly cutting edge stuff, but for someone who seems to have almost no reputation for the more technical aspects of coaching or methods, it's something. Reputations can sometimes be based on assumptions though. How much do we really know about his coaching methods? Kind of the point isn't it? If he had any decently effective methods, then surely players/pundits/colleagues would be highlighting lauding them? Rafa had a reputation for attention to detail and drilling methods into players Klopp likes high energy pressing... Guardiola likes his players to make a pass or two... Wilder goes for rigid team discipline with hard workers Wenger wanted players to pass the ball until two yards from goal Fergie just scared the hell out of everyone so his team won All i see from Bruce is let the other team have the ball, hope they make a mistake and let ASM/Almiron/Joelinton run 40/50 yards with the ball to see if they can beat the keeper. Most decent managers have at least one decent and memorable team through their career. I can't really think of any for Bruce. Birmingham with Dugarry maybe? Possibly that Wigan team that fluked their way to the final then got hammered by the first good team they played? Robson liked pace and directness Paul Jewell was manager of Wigan in that final. My bad, but shows how memorable Bruce's time was there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'm actually impressed that he's shown any inclination for detail. I mean it's not exactly cutting edge stuff, but for someone who seems to have almost no reputation for the more technical aspects of coaching or methods, it's something. Reputations can sometimes be based on assumptions though. How much do we really know about his coaching methods? Kind of the point isn't it? If he had any decently effective methods, then surely players/pundits/colleagues would be highlighting lauding them? Rafa had a reputation for attention to detail and drilling methods into players Klopp likes high energy pressing... Guardiola likes his players to make a pass or two... Wilder goes for rigid team discipline with hard workers Wenger wanted players to pass the ball until two yards from goal Fergie just scared the hell out of everyone so his team won All i see from Bruce is let the other team have the ball, hope they make a mistake and let ASM/Almiron/Joelinton run 40/50 yards with the ball to see if they can beat the keeper. Most decent managers have at least one decent and memorable team through their career. I can't really think of any for Bruce. Birmingham with Dugarry maybe? Possibly that Wigan team that fluked their way to the final then got hammered by the first good team they played? Robson liked pace and directness Exactly. These old school British managers seem to have built a reputation on character rather than anything more specific, Souness and Pardew were prime examples, and Bruce is another one in the same tradition. Eddie Howe might be having a rough time of it now, but he is one of the newer breed who's team have an identity. Steve Bruce's football identity is he's a very nice man mostly. If there's more beyond the surface, then he should blame his mates in the media for not shouting about those credentials more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Souness won trophies like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Souness won trophies like At Liverpool where he took over a team already winning them, and went downhill the longer he stayed there. And at Rangers where only two teams win trophies and it usually depends on which one has more money at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 And Blackburn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Maybe my view of him is coloured by his time here, but I thought he did an awful job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14th in the table and "We've got ourselves into a wonderful situation" according to Bruce in his pre match interview there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 You know, you know, you know. Strange words to constantly say when you never have a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14th in the table and "We've got ourselves into a wonderful situation" according to Bruce in his pre match interview there. Sums the bloke up basically, he knows his own self worth, and it's obviously not much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14th in the table and "We've got ourselves into a wonderful situation" according to Bruce in his pre match interview there. Sums the bloke up basically, he knows his own self worth, and it's obviously not much. Just sums up why we need the Saudis in and Ashley and him out. What a pointless existence this club leads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 And Blackburn. A lucky League cup against a dire Tottenham team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Good managers make a team that is remembered regardless of who is in it....I'd be quite willing to bet more people remember the 4-3 team we put out than the one Blackburn won the title with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Good managers make a team that is remembered regardless of who is in it....I'd be quite willing to bet more people remember the 4-3 team we put out than the one Blackburn won the title with An attempt.... Flowers Le saux Henry...don't remember...don't remember Wilcox batty Sherwood ripley shearer Sutton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Henning Berg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I’ve actually been won over by Bruce in this takeover period. He’s shown a lot of class and I do believe he’s being genuine when he says he wants what’s best for the club. He hasn’t made a terrible account of himself either this year. Am I naive enough to he’ll do a top job with a load of money? No. Do I think we should at least give him a fair crack of the whip? Absolutely. He’s earned it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest neesy111 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I’ve actually been won over by Bruce in this takeover period. He’s shown a lot of class and I do believe he’s being genuine when he says he wants what’s best for the club. He hasn’t made a terrible account of himself either this year. Am I naive enough to he’ll do a top job with a load of money? No. Do I think we should at least give him a fair crack of the whip? Absolutely. He’s earned it for me. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I’ve actually been won over by Bruce in this takeover period. He’s shown a lot of class and I do believe he’s being genuine when he says he wants what’s best for the club. He hasn’t made a terrible account of himself either this year. Am I naive enough to he’ll do a top job with a load of money? No. Do I think we should at least give him a fair crack of the whip? Absolutely. He’s earned it for me. Give over, man. He absolutely should not be given a "fair crack of the whip" in the event of a takeover, especially if said takeover results in serious investment in the playing staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 If it wasn’t for the knacker brigade and his bald self-flagellating adulation squad in the press he’d be a lot more tolerable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I’ve actually been won over by Bruce in this takeover period. He’s shown a lot of class and I do believe he’s being genuine when he says he wants what’s best for the club. He hasn’t made a terrible account of himself either this year. Am I naive enough to he’ll do a top job with a load of money? No. Do I think we should at least give him a fair crack of the whip? Absolutely. He’s earned it for me. :lol: I almost wet myself laughing at that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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