Izakaya Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 He's gone imo. Anderson made a cunt of him within ten minutes, hamstring injury or not. Can see Wolves taking him, or back to France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Izakaya said: He's gone imo. Anderson made a cunt of him within ten minutes, hamstring injury or not. Can see Wolves taking him, or back to France. walk away from your keyboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 He's not quite gone, but his involvement is diminishing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Palace to replace Zaha for about what we paid for him in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 He's not like his old self, he seems to have lost a yard and he wasn't even trying to take people on today. I don't know what the issue is. Maybe it's just all the injuries over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I do think he'll be off and I think it's best for all parties. I do think he's trying to change his game a bit and do what Howe wants from him but it's just doesn't suit him and it also neuters what he does best. That said, with Miggy out for the next six weeks he's still going to have a big role to play the rest of this season, whether he fits or not. Hopefully he can contribute some positive things in the run in and get a move to a good team but he's good enough to play for one, we're just not a good fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) He's a player shot of confidence who has hit the wall at this club. It's best for both parties we move on before fans start moaning every time he touches the ball. Edited March 17, 2023 by Menace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 He has clearly been injured the past two games imo. Nowhere near able to run at full speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Injury or not get rid in the summer, he's never going to fit in to what Howe demands from his players. You might say well Wilson has been shit recently aswell, but at least you know he isn't going to chuck one in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 A reminder for people wanting to bin him off, we currently have Matt Ritchie coming on as a sub. We will need even more depth if we have European football next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I doubt he'll be here next year, Europe or not. In fact I think Europe makes it less likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Mikky said: Graham Jones was furious before HT - had to be at ASM I would assume it was the officiating. That scissors tackle on Schar after five minutes was ridiculous and set the tone for all that came in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Thought he did some good stuff in that first half, personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I've been one of his doubters for a while, and that performance did nothing to change my mind. He'll be good to have around as an impact sub if we're in trouble, but that's it. Unless we give him a free role, with no defensive expectations, I don't think he's worth a starting place. We're a hard-working, passing team and he needs to link better with his team mates and move the ball on more quickly. He's very much an individual whose instinct is to try and make things happen on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Yeah it was terrible the way he held on too long for our first goal. Greedy bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 He’s one of the very few who are likely to go who’d also command a decent fee (I would’ve thought c.£20-25m would be ok for him - maybe even higher). He looks like a square peg in a round hole but I’ll give the lad full credit - these last few games you can see that he’s trying to play a game different from his natural one; but it’s better for both parties that we sign someone more suited to that style of play and let him go somewhere else (hopefully abroad, but I can picture a Palace or maybe newly-promoted Burnley hoping the wedge over for him) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Jaqen said: A reminder for people wanting to bin him off, we currently have Matt Ritchie coming on as a sub. We will need even more depth if we have European football next season. And we'll have Gordon and Anderson and the Joe/Joe dovetail and possibly more coming in in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Against Wolves Maxi did very well and he was half decent against Forest to be fair. Maxi is one of those players that can look outstanding in a team that allow him to be the main man. Unfortunately for Maxi the training and match reliance is on entire team effort all game with all players to be relevant all game and not go missing for some part of it. I don't want to knock Maxi because he's clearly one hell of a player when his mind is right and his fitness is in check. Against Wolves Maxi showed what a team player he can be so there's work in motion for him. It'll come down to where we finish this season as to how much Maxi wants to continue to fit this set up. If we gain Europa or even (dare I say it) champions league then where could Maxi go to better it? The answer is very few teams on that level who would be willing to take him and his price tag plus wages. I'd like to see him carry on with us for at least another season, obviously with mind right and his ability integrated more into Eddie's set up. Having said all this, if he does go, whether he's surplus or wants out then I'd be sad to see him go but also buoyed by the fact we will be replacing with players that are as good or better in his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I don't want him to go at all like. Still think he's a special player and worthy of a start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 If a new LB is brought in, or Targett gets a run in the team we’ll see a different player. The lack of an overlap rally hinders him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Would absolutely hate if he played for another Premier League team like. The ideal scenario would be selling him to a club like PSG, admittedly an unlikely scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: If a new LB is brought in, or Targett gets a run in the team we’ll see a different player. The lack of an overlap rally hinders him Will we? We said the same when Howe came in. Howe will transform him like he did with Joelinton and Almiron. But its still the same. Always a knock or an injury, one step forward two step back. He has his usual 10/10 game then you wont see him for another ten games. He just doesnt click, there is just no consistency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Cronky said: I've been one of his doubters for a while, and that performance did nothing to change my mind. He'll be good to have around as an impact sub if we're in trouble, but that's it. Unless we give him a free role, with no defensive expectations, I don't think he's worth a starting place. We're a hard-working, passing team and he needs to link better with his team mates and move the ball on more quickly. He's very much an individual whose instinct is to try and make things happen on his own. I think we should probably give him the benefit of the doubt that he was actually struggling with his hamstring like Howe suggested. And he was rightly taken off. Don't think that's a problem with his performance if he's injured... He can't help his hamstrings! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Think the issue is that if he's not able to consistently rinse players with his dribbling then he's not offering much as he really struggles to link up well with his teammates. His movement off the ball is really poor, he never seems to receive the ball in any position other than on the touchline facing a fullback. How often do you see him make a run into a clever space to receive the ball in a good spot, or making a run that drags a defender out of position to create space for a teammate? Those little one touch quick passing moves we like in the buildup are very hard to do with him as he doesn't move very well and he also isn't quick to release the ball. He's a very good player but he's just a terrible fit for the way Howe wants us to play in possession. Also, the way we play without the ball is also very intense and he keeps picking up these injuries. I do wonder if his body is not able for it, physically. I do think we'll move on from him in the summer and it'll be best for all concerned. Assuming the injury is nothing serious, he does have a big role to play down the stretch for us though. We're so thin on the flanks that he'll see plenty of action. Hopefully he can produce a few moments of magic and get us into the CL spots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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