Dokko Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Needs to cheer up. Looks miserable as fuck everytime he plays. Something isn't right with him, I hope he can sort it and get back to being himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 End of the season couldn't come quick enough for him. Needs to reset and look forward to next season with better players around him. He's one the least of the squad's problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: He's one the least of the squad's problems. Right now he is. He is a passenger. And apart from striker the wide department is a big problem position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Think after his last few displays if someone wants to give up 50 mil we should take it. I think even Howe realises max has a limited time left with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Right now he is. He is a passenger. And apart from striker the wide department is a big problem position. 23 goal contributions in 83 appearances for us, where we've been mostly shit. For a comparison, Robert has 55 goal contributions in 150 appearances. Not much in it, Robert ever so slightly ahead on goal contributions per 90 and he took set pieces. He's in a bad patch of form, all players have them and we've all seen what he's capable of when in form. We're so close to the end of the season now and today and Sunday are games I'm not going to read too much into especially given the alternative forward options. Upgrade those alternative options and next season will be make or break for him. Not having reactionary calls to sell him, sorry like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Yes he has saved us so many times, but right now he is one of the problems. Defence all over is doing their job, midfield also. Striker and wide are not. Far off it every one. Needs to up his game. Like the guy and hope he can turn it around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Clearly needs more bandages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Teams know how to play against him now - it’s not unusual. We either need to change the system to give him more space or he needs to adapt his game. The problem now is that his game doesn’t rely on pass and move, it relies on him trying to take on everyone and it’s predictable as fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pata said: Are Wood, Almiron, Fraser and Murphy getting in that team? Mostly not but there's no debate about them, that's more like Winterburn, Clough and Smith trying to get in - nobody's even watching them really - whilst Gazza has a chance and is entertaining and you actually want him to, if he'll buckle down. Fraser might on account of being useful and reliable now. He'd be Trevor Steven. 55 minutes ago, elbee909 said: Clearly needs more bandages. Maxi-pads (I bet that's already been done, but just in case) Edited April 30, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Mostly not but there's no debate about them, that's more like Winterburn, Clough and Smith trying to get in - nobody's even watching them really - whilst Gazza has a chance and is entertaining and you actually want him to, if he'll buckle down. Fraser might on account of being useful and reliable now. He'd be Trevor Steven. Maxi-pads (I bet that's already been done, but just in case) Don't think the analogy really makes sense unless you think we are buying close to 20 players in the summer. Edited April 30, 2022 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 He needs to go back to Puma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pata said: Don't think the analogy really makes sense unless you think we are buying close to 20 players in the summer. I/we mentioned 3. So obviously not. ASM is the only one borderline. Like Gazza was. The others we know are or aren't good enough. Edited April 30, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Tough to judge him when he’s alongside Wood, Almiron etc. He’s basically our only option in far too many attacking situations and teams know this. Hardly ideal ground on which to thrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: 23 goal contributions in 83 appearances for us, where we've been mostly shit. For a comparison, Robert has 55 goal contributions in 150 appearances. Not much in it, Robert ever so slightly ahead on goal contributions per 90 and he took set pieces. He's in a bad patch of form, all players have them and we've all seen what he's capable of when in form. We're so close to the end of the season now and today and Sunday are games I'm not going to read too much into especially given the alternative forward options. Upgrade those alternative options and next season will be make or break for him. Not having reactionary calls to sell him, sorry like. A healthy percentage of people used to despise Robert with all the same tropes tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Very poor yesterday. I want to have a pop at him but I just can’t yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, GWN said: Very poor yesterday. I want to have a pop at him but I just can’t yet. Given we are a proper football club going in the right direction let’s leave having a pop to the manager ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Given we are a proper football club going in the right direction let’s leave having a pop to the manager ? only criticism on here from me , however a lot sitting around me are losing patience with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 The problem is he's making bad decisions all of the time and has a defsult setting of showmanship. Losing the ball and wafting his arms about, not tracking men and not closing down are all easy ebough fixes and I don't foresee Howe not telling him these things. He was a big fish in a small pond and star of our show under Bruce. Hence why he liked Bruce. He doesn't appear happy anymore because he's no longer star of the show. I'd argue he's been the weakest link in our first 11 since the turn of the calendar year, yet he also poses one of the biggest threats because everyone knows how talented and capable he is. However, at present time, he's not the type of player we need. We need effectiveness and work rate, not step overs and running down blind alleys... Wouldn't get on his back at the game, there's no point, but he's getting by on ifs and maybes at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Heron said: The problem is he's making bad decisions all of the time and has a defsult setting of showmanship. Losing the ball and wafting his arms about, not tracking men and not closing down are all easy ebough fixes and I don't foresee Howe not telling him these things. He was a big fish in a small pond and star of our show under Bruce. Hence why he liked Bruce. He doesn't appear happy anymore because he's no longer star of the show. I'd argue he's been the weakest link in our first 11 since the turn of the calendar year, yet he also poses one of the biggest threats because everyone knows how talented and capable he is. However, at present time, he's not the type of player we need. We need effectiveness and work rate, not step overs and running down blind alleys... Wouldn't get on his back at the game, there's no point, but he's getting by on ifs and maybes at present. I don’t do ifs, buts or maybes I do absolutes. If ASM doesn't score in all the big games then he isn't world class but he does so he is see what I’m saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 I think he’ll get next season to see what he can do in a set up with a proper right winger, and other attackers. I think that will help him a lot as someone stated on this thread earlier. That said I’m not convinced he’s disciplined enough in the role or consistent enough to be here long term. I can see Howe potentially selling him at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Geese Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 It’s getting harder and harder to defend Maxi, he’s not a team player, to much maverick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) He wasn't great yesterday, but no one stood out other than perhaps Dubravka and Bruno. I'm not going to make a judgement on whether he can have a future here until next season (World Cup Break) when he's had a full pre season under Howe and he has different players around him in attack and midfield. Edited May 1, 2022 by Mazzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 The thing that I don't get is that imo he's clearly started passing it more, particularly to Targett on the overlap or to whoever's running through the middle, yet it's coincided with more people claiming he plays for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 ASM is undoubtedly in poor form, he's not been great since he came back from injury. If it wasn't for him and Wilson, we'd have gone down long ago, so he's got plenty of goodwill in the bank for me. As I've said, there are parts of his game he needs to work on and if he doesn't improve along with the squad, I have no doubt Howe will show him the door. As it stands though he's still arguably our best attacking outlet and there are three or four we need to replace before we even start to think about getting rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: The thing that I don't get is that imo he's clearly started passing it more, particularly to Targett on the overlap or to whoever's running through the middle, yet it's coincided with more people claiming he plays for himself. Definitely has changed his game in the last 4/5 games. He was far more willing yesterday to close down defenders. I think it's just a sign of the progress we've made, every other player in the team has moved up a level and ASM has stood still more than anyone else. It's just the fact he is no longer the one player we rely on so he's getting more stick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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