RS Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 It’s always been planned to complete around the middle of May. Take the bet. It’s candy from a baby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Astonishing that anyone is still taking notice of that Shell goon. Absolute bullshit artist preying on the simpleton nature of most of our fanbase. Would anyone like a peer-to-peer bet with me on this? £1k into escrow that Newcastle United Limited is still a 100% subsidiary of MASH Holdings Limited as at 01/06/2020? Fuck off charnley you bald cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TaylorJ_01 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Astonishing that anyone is still taking notice of that Shell goon. Absolute bullshit artist preying on the simpleton nature of most of our fanbase. Would anyone like a peer-to-peer bet with me on this? £1k into escrow that Newcastle United Limited is still a 100% subsidiary of MASH Holdings Limited as at 01/06/2020? Fuck off charnley you bald cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Fair play to Manorpark he knew exactly what this thread was missing Naa, this thread is missing the Chronic Town EP (vinyl, original pressing) Own alrdy I've got that too Got all of them on LP up to and including Monster (which I can’t ever seem to get into). Hard to find anything subsequent on vinyl, not least for a sensible price. Would love a copy of Reveal. LFEE[/member] and I air guitaring to that plastered at his house about 3AM, really great times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Quite the turn around fella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Right... I’m obviously a gobshite and have no ITK info whatsoever on this but from a business perspective I do have some experience in the various processes involved in the sale/purchase of a business having sold and or been involved in the sale of one or two in my time. Where things are at right now, legally, strictly in terms of the sale/purchase of the business itself if MA was to suddenly just pull out right now, only unless there was some kind of option to do so both parties are signed up to and locked in by, the buyer could legally contest his ownership and force through the purchase. Likewise if they were to just pull out, he could legally seek to be reimbursed anyway upto the actual full purchase price. He wants to sell yesterday, they want to buy yesterday. The PL itself can not legally stop the sale for a number of reasons which is mainly because the buyer is not an individual but a legitimate, a registered, fully legally operating corporate entity that is recognised as such lawfully here in England and any test is fundamentally a fact finding mission that protects the PL itself against persons or people who (not businesses) who satisfy their own football only laws, rules and regulations which is set and bound within their own terms of service and guidelines. If MA wanted to sell a stake in Newcastle for say 20% to Fred West, he could and the PL and government couldn’t do anything to prevent that. Now if he was banned from being a director or his stake contrivance say the monopolies rules and guidelines, they could object. But good old Fred could quite easily still buy that 20% stake legally. The PL can object to individuals as per their fit and proper persons test and rule in or out individuals themselves, but they can not prevent a legally lawful business being sold or bought. I guarantee they will not have even broached the subject of human rights issues because they have no legal right to even go there in the same way they could bring up MA’s gambling habits or if he has a mistress or not or if he does drugs, it’s none of their business and again legally they cannot base any fit and proper test on such issues. What makes the takeover of our club far more easier to process for the PL is that no individual will own the club outright and that Ashley us selling his entire stake in the club to a business whose stake will be shared by others and it’s those others who the PL will have nothing whatsoever to go against and rule in anything other than in their favour. The government can’t object to this legally, or lawfully either. No-one can. All the letters in the world, tweets and whataboutery is none of the PL’s busines, the government, fans or even companies house and HMRC. Will the PL look into privacy? Of course, but only to obtain a guarantee the owner or owners will not doing anything that would contraivine the PL’s own laws, rules, guild lines, policies and TOS should they sanction the only thing they can do and that’s registration and membership to its league which they will grant, as the FA will grant the club with membership to play association football under them. As they will be granted to operate a business lawfully as per the law of the land here. As they will be granted government approval for protection under the trades act, HMRC, banking, companies house and every other laws, policies, rules, guidelines and acts governing all legal business entities whether as a sole trader, a LTD or PLC, a co-operative, a registered business charity or anything else. There is nothing that will stop this sale and it will go through once, as is the name of the game, that big fat cheque finally clears. That’s where it’s at. There is no delay or hold up, just a natural process of checks, assurances, legal formalities and the clearances of money to conclude the transaction in full. Weeks? IMO no, days. Any day now. One last thing, these new owners and the two stakeholders especially, they know these processes inside out and it bodes well for us that we have such people who will own combined our club because they will have done everything they can to get over the line, legally, lawfully and with the FA and PL, we are not talking about numpties, chancers and people who only have some money, they are experts in acquisitions, corporate business, banking, legal matters and above all else, succeeding in business, whether it’s property, football, stocks and shares, tech, or arms trading with other ruling powers. This to them is chicken feed, it’s nothing they will sweat over that’s for sure. MA will be sweating so he can cash up and untie that noose around his neck which who would have though, an empty stadium could hang the bastard up by the balls never mind by the neck. If only someone knew and told us all from the start or before it come down to this... Either way it’s going to worth it! Soon..., wait... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I only read to the tenth word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Man at least make some magnanimous gesture out of it where both people come out having done some good. Winner donates £500 to a foodbank/charity/etc of loser's choice, loser pays double (£1k) to one of the winner's choice. Agree to that and I take the bet. edit: on the condition there's no fuckery with having to wait for a new year's account to change hands when it's technically sold in all but name etc. Fucking mint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Jim Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Right... I’m obviously a gobshite and have no ITK info whatsoever on this but from a business perspective I do have some experience in the various processes involved in the sale/purchase of a business having sold and or been involved in the sale of one or two in my time. Where things are at right now, legally, strictly in terms of the sale/purchase of the business itself if MA was to suddenly just pull out right now, only unless there was some kind of option to do so both parties are signed up to and locked in by, the buyer could legally contest his ownership and force through the purchase. Likewise if they were to just pull out, he could legally seek to be reimbursed anyway upto the actual full purchase price. He wants to sell yesterday, they want to buy yesterday. The PL itself can not legally stop the sale for a number of reasons which is mainly because the buyer is not an individual but a legitimate, a registered, fully legally operating corporate entity that is recognised as such lawfully here in England and any test is fundamentally a fact finding mission that protects the PL itself against persons or people who (not businesses) who satisfy their own football only laws, rules and regulations which is set and bound within their own terms of service and guidelines. If MA wanted to sell a stake in Newcastle for say 20% to Fred West, he could and the PL and government couldn’t do anything to prevent that. Now if he was banned from being a director or his stake contrivance say the monopolies rules and guidelines, they could object. But good old Fred could quite easily still buy that 20% stake legally. The PL can object to individuals as per their fit and proper persons test and rule in or out individuals themselves, but they can not prevent a legally lawful business being sold or bought. I guarantee they will not have even broached the subject of human rights issues because they have no legal right to even go there in the same way they could bring up MA’s gambling habits or if he has a mistress or not or if he does drugs, it’s none of their business and again legally they cannot base any fit and proper test on such issues. What makes the takeover of our club far more easier to process for the PL is that no individual will own the club outright and that Ashley us selling his entire stake in the club to a business whose stake will be shared by others and it’s those others who the PL will have nothing whatsoever to go against and rule in anything other than in their favour. The government can’t object to this legally, or lawfully either. No-one can. All the letters in the world, tweets and whataboutery is none of the PL’s busines, the government, fans or even companies house and HMRC. Will the PL look into privacy? Of course, but only to obtain a guarantee the owner or owners will not doing anything that would contraivine the PL’s own laws, rules, guild lines, policies and TOS should they sanction the only thing they can do and that’s registration and membership to its league which they will grant, as the FA will grant the club with membership to play association football under them. As they will be granted to operate a business lawfully as per the law of the land here. As they will be granted government approval for protection under the trades act, HMRC, banking, companies house and every other laws, policies, rules, guidelines and acts governing all legal business entities whether as a sole trader, a LTD or PLC, a co-operative, a registered business charity or anything else. There is nothing that will stop this sale and it will go through once, as is the name of the game, that big fat cheque finally clears. That’s where it’s at. There is no delay or hold up, just a natural process of checks, assurances, legal formalities and the clearances of money to conclude the transaction in full. Weeks? IMO no, days. Any day now. One last thing, these new owners and the two stakeholders especially, they know these processes inside out and it bodes well for us that we have such people who will own combined our club because they will have done everything they can to get over the line, legally, lawfully and with the FA and PL, we are not talking about numpties, chancers and people who only have some money, they are experts in acquisitions, corporate business, banking, legal matters and above all else, succeeding in business, whether it’s property, football, stocks and shares, tech, or arms trading with other ruling powers. This to them is chicken feed, it’s nothing they will sweat over that’s for sure. MA will be sweating so he can cash up and untie that noose around his neck which who would have though, an empty stadium could hang the bastard up by the balls never mind by the neck. If only someone knew and told us all from the start or before it come down to this... Either way it’s going to worth it! Soon..., wait... Well i like it....can i put it across to the Positivity thread...cheered me up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Right... I’m obviously a gobshite and have no ITK info whatsoever on this but from a business perspective I do have some experience in the various processes involved in the sale/purchase of a business having sold and or been involved in the sale of one or two in my time. Where things are at right now, legally, strictly in terms of the sale/purchase of the business itself if MA was to suddenly just pull out right now, only unless there was some kind of option to do so both parties are signed up to and locked in by, the buyer could legally contest his ownership and force through the purchase. Likewise if they were to just pull out, he could legally seek to be reimbursed anyway upto the actual full purchase price. He wants to sell yesterday, they want to buy yesterday. The PL itself can not legally stop the sale for a number of reasons which is mainly because the buyer is not an individual but a legitimate, a registered, fully legally operating corporate entity that is recognised as such lawfully here in England and any test is fundamentally a fact finding mission that protects the PL itself against persons or people who (not businesses) who satisfy their own football only laws, rules and regulations which is set and bound within their own terms of service and guidelines. If MA wanted to sell a stake in Newcastle for say 20% to Fred West, he could and the PL and government couldn’t do anything to prevent that. Now if he was banned from being a director or his stake contrivance say the monopolies rules and guidelines, they could object. But good old Fred could quite easily still buy that 20% stake legally. The PL can object to individuals as per their fit and proper persons test and rule in or out individuals themselves, but they can not prevent a legally lawful business being sold or bought. I guarantee they will not have even broached the subject of human rights issues because they have no legal right to even go there in the same way they could bring up MA’s gambling habits or if he has a mistress or not or if he does drugs, it’s none of their business and again legally they cannot base any fit and proper test on such issues. What makes the takeover of our club far more easier to process for the PL is that no individual will own the club outright and that Ashley us selling his entire stake in the club to a business whose stake will be shared by others and it’s those others who the PL will have nothing whatsoever to go against and rule in anything other than in their favour. The government can’t object to this legally, or lawfully either. No-one can. All the letters in the world, tweets and whataboutery is none of the PL’s busines, the government, fans or even companies house and HMRC. Will the PL look into privacy? Of course, but only to obtain a guarantee the owner or owners will not doing anything that would contraivine the PL’s own laws, rules, guild lines, policies and TOS should they sanction the only thing they can do and that’s registration and membership to its league which they will grant, as the FA will grant the club with membership to play association football under them. As they will be granted to operate a business lawfully as per the law of the land here. As they will be granted government approval for protection under the trades act, HMRC, banking, companies house and every other laws, policies, rules, guidelines and acts governing all legal business entities whether as a sole trader, a LTD or PLC, a co-operative, a registered business charity or anything else. There is nothing that will stop this sale and it will go through once, as is the name of the game, that big fat cheque finally clears. That’s where it’s at. There is no delay or hold up, just a natural process of checks, assurances, legal formalities and the clearances of money to conclude the transaction in full. Weeks? IMO no, days. Any day now. One last thing, these new owners and the two stakeholders especially, they know these processes inside out and it bodes well for us that we have such people who will own combined our club because they will have done everything they can to get over the line, legally, lawfully and with the FA and PL, we are not talking about numpties, chancers and people who only have some money, they are experts in acquisitions, corporate business, banking, legal matters and above all else, succeeding in business, whether it’s property, football, stocks and shares, tech, or arms trading with other ruling powers. This to them is chicken feed, it’s nothing they will sweat over that’s for sure. MA will be sweating so he can cash up and untie that noose around his neck which who would have though, an empty stadium could hang the bastard up by the balls never mind by the neck. If only someone knew and told us all from the start or before it come down to this... Either way it’s going to worth it! Soon..., wait... TL;DR. What time do the sharks get here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 This thread puts the into abortion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 This thread puts the into abortion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Kim jong un is dead so that puts pay to the jeans fiasco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Silent Face Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Well that has put my mind at rest cheers HTT[/member] fuck it I'm back in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Yeah more cans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 FWIW I’ve been told it’s all done and dusted, balance of money being paid next week. Not come from my usual source but I’ve done a bit of digging about names and roles and it all matches. I have no idea who and who isn’t on the wind up on here ? I hope your right however. FWIW I’ve been told it’s all done and dusted, balance of money being paid next week. Not come from my usual source but I’ve done a bit of digging about names and roles and it all matches. I have no idea who and who isn’t on the wind up on here ? I hope your right however. Put it this way, if my info was given as a wind up then someone pretty high up in the club is taking the piss out of a family member of their own or that family member is taking the rise out of someone in my family who knows that persons link to the club. Hope that makes sense. Your Charnleys dad? No, but Charnley has allegedly been making phone calls following today’s PL meeting confirming it’s done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Fuck my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Another choppy afternoon on the takeover front, but think the ship has evened it’s keel again. Be fu#%ing bipolar after all this is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Can't be arsed to trawl through, but I presume this has already been posted? https://houseofsaud.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Right... I’m obviously a gobshite and have no ITK info whatsoever on this but from a business perspective I do have some experience in the various processes involved in the sale/purchase of a business having sold and or been involved in the sale of one or two in my time. Where things are at right now, legally, strictly in terms of the sale/purchase of the business itself if MA was to suddenly just pull out right now, only unless there was some kind of option to do so both parties are signed up to and locked in by, the buyer could legally contest his ownership and force through the purchase. Likewise if they were to just pull out, he could legally seek to be reimbursed anyway upto the actual full purchase price. He wants to sell yesterday, they want to buy yesterday. The PL itself can not legally stop the sale for a number of reasons which is mainly because the buyer is not an individual but a legitimate, a registered, fully legally operating corporate entity that is recognised as such lawfully here in England and any test is fundamentally a fact finding mission that protects the PL itself against persons or people who (not businesses) who satisfy their own football only laws, rules and regulations which is set and bound within their own terms of service and guidelines. If MA wanted to sell a stake in Newcastle for say 20% to Fred West, he could and the PL and government couldn’t do anything to prevent that. Now if he was banned from being a director or his stake contrivance say the monopolies rules and guidelines, they could object. But good old Fred could quite easily still buy that 20% stake legally. The PL can object to individuals as per their fit and proper persons test and rule in or out individuals themselves, but they can not prevent a legally lawful business being sold or bought. I guarantee they will not have even broached the subject of human rights issues because they have no legal right to even go there in the same way they could bring up MA’s gambling habits or if he has a mistress or not or if he does drugs, it’s none of their business and again legally they cannot base any fit and proper test on such issues. What makes the takeover of our club far more easier to process for the PL is that no individual will own the club outright and that Ashley us selling his entire stake in the club to a business whose stake will be shared by others and it’s those others who the PL will have nothing whatsoever to go against and rule in anything other than in their favour. The government can’t object to this legally, or lawfully either. No-one can. All the letters in the world, tweets and whataboutery is none of the PL’s busines, the government, fans or even companies house and HMRC. Will the PL look into privacy? Of course, but only to obtain a guarantee the owner or owners will not doing anything that would contraivine the PL’s own laws, rules, guild lines, policies and TOS should they sanction the only thing they can do and that’s registration and membership to its league which they will grant, as the FA will grant the club with membership to play association football under them. As they will be granted to operate a business lawfully as per the law of the land here. As they will be granted government approval for protection under the trades act, HMRC, banking, companies house and every other laws, policies, rules, guidelines and acts governing all legal business entities whether as a sole trader, a LTD or PLC, a co-operative, a registered business charity or anything else. There is nothing that will stop this sale and it will go through once, as is the name of the game, that big fat cheque finally clears. That’s where it’s at. There is no delay or hold up, just a natural process of checks, assurances, legal formalities and the clearances of money to conclude the transaction in full. Weeks? IMO no, days. Any day now. One last thing, these new owners and the two stakeholders especially, they know these processes inside out and it bodes well for us that we have such people who will own combined our club because they will have done everything they can to get over the line, legally, lawfully and with the FA and PL, we are not talking about numpties, chancers and people who only have some money, they are experts in acquisitions, corporate business, banking, legal matters and above all else, succeeding in business, whether it’s property, football, stocks and shares, tech, or arms trading with other ruling powers. This to them is chicken feed, it’s nothing they will sweat over that’s for sure. MA will be sweating so he can cash up and untie that noose around his neck which who would have though, an empty stadium could hang the b****** up by the balls never mind by the neck. If only someone knew and told us all from the start or before it come down to this... Either way it’s going to worth it! Soon..., wait... Stopped at Right...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Stop fucking quoting it already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Buyers claiming the deal is pretty much done. Ashley leaking that he has doubts. What could possibly go wrong? If only we'd seen this pattern before... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Can't be arsed to trawl through, but I presume this has already been posted? https://houseofsaud.com/ is that website an official Saudi royal family website? If so, thats the first time I have seen anything from KSA confirming anything, that basically says it will be announced in the next few days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Can't be arsed to trawl through, but I presume this has already been posted? https://houseofsaud.com/ is that website an official Saudi royal family website? If so, thats the first time I have seen anything from KSA confirming anything, that basically says it will be announced in the next few days! It's not no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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