STM Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I'm just trying to imagine the scene. The PL have completed their checks and are now on the video link to Yasir Al-Rumayyan... "Hello Mr Al-Rumayyan, we have concluded our investigation and looked at your proposal for NUFC and it is certainly very impressive. However, as you know, there have been several instances of televised PL games being pirated by an organisation in Saudi Arabia. We have consulted our legal team with regards to this matter and they can find no legal evidence that proves that you or anyone involved with the Saudi PIF contributed to this piracy. However, in our considered opinion, we believe there is no smoke without fire and on those grounds we regret to inform you that we cannot allow your purchase of NUFC. Many thanks for your interest though" Aye, righto. Or, just to add some balance... "There is enough evidence to suggest that, in the balance of probability, illegal streaming of PL football matches came from Saudi State owned satellites, which violates our owners and directors tests". It can fall through. A more comforting thought is that, for once the power and money is on our side, not against us. From the little I've heard, Staveley and the Reubens are no schmucks, they will have a legal team battling hard the other way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I'm just trying to imagine the scene. The PL have completed their checks and are now on the video link to Yasir Al-Rumayyan... "Hello Mr Al-Rumayyan, we have concluded our investigation and looked at your proposal for NUFC and it is certainly very impressive. However, as you know, there have been several instances of televised PL games being pirated by an organisation in Saudi Arabia. We have consulted our legal team with regards to this matter and they can find no legal evidence that proves that you or anyone involved with the Saudi PIF contributed to this piracy. However, in our considered opinion, we believe there is no smoke without fire and on those grounds we regret to inform you that we cannot allow your purchase of NUFC. Many thanks for your interest though" Aye, righto. Or, just to add some balance... "There is enough evidence to suggest that, in the balance of probability, illegal streaming of PL football matches came from Saudi State owned satellites, which violates our owners and directors tests". It can fall through. A more comforting thought is that, for once the power and money is on our side, not against us. From the little I've heard, Staveley and the Reubens are no schmucks, they will have a legal team battling hard the other way. The satellites are owned by pretty much every Middle Eastern country, including Qatar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 The reasonable opinion will have to have some kind of factual backing, especially when it means 1 party loses a 17 million deposit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 https://beoutq.tv Everything you need to know is in the above link. Absolutely every complaint by timeline etc, and there's a drop menu in the top right with further details on theft of sport, theft of entertainment, and piracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Are you seriously saying that nobody can have a reasonable opinion on anything without evidence? I reasonably believe many things with no evidence whatsoever. Again, I'm not saying this will fail, I'm just saying it's ridiculous to suggest it cannot. There's too many people in this thread who seem so utterly convinced that this cannot in any way be stopped. You might be in for a shock. Are you really saying you can knock a multi-million pound deal back, based on a reasonable opinion without evidence Well thats exactly what the rules say so yeah Think you need to do a bit more research on law: An opinion is a judgment based on facts, an honest attempt to draw a reasonable conclusion from factual evidence We are talking about the internal rules of a company explaining how they run their business. Their rules clearly give them enough room to decide what ever they want when it's in the grey area. I doubt there's a section in UK law about who gets to play in the Premierleague? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 https://beoutq.tv Everything you need to know is in the above link. Absolutely every complaint by timeline etc, and there's a drop menu in the top right with further details on theft of sport, theft of entertainment, and piracy. Who created that website? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 https://beoutq.tv Everything you need to know is in the above link. Absolutely every complaint by timeline etc, and there's a drop menu in the top right with further details on theft of sport, theft of entertainment, and piracy. Who created that website? I have no idea pal, but its detailed👍🏻 Probably Richard Keys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Richard Keys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Are you seriously saying that nobody can have a reasonable opinion on anything without evidence? I reasonably believe many things with no evidence whatsoever. Again, I'm not saying this will fail, I'm just saying it's ridiculous to suggest it cannot. There's too many people in this thread who seem so utterly convinced that this cannot in any way be stopped. You might be in for a shock. Are you really saying you can knock a multi-million pound deal back, based on a reasonable opinion without evidence Well thats exactly what the rules say so yeah Think you need to do a bit more research on law: An opinion is a judgment based on facts, an honest attempt to draw a reasonable conclusion from factual evidence We are talking about the internal rules of a company explaining how they run their business. Their rules clearly give them enough room to decide what ever they want when it's in the grey area. I doubt there's a section in UK law about who gets to play in the Premierleague? Yes, I think there is a struggle in peoples minds between Law and Business. PL could conclude whatever they want but it would need to be watertight, otherwise they will get sued for damages etc, which would cost the PL a fortune. They may have some evidence that hasnt been divulged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 June 10:00 am Saudi time for no apparent reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Are you seriously saying that nobody can have a reasonable opinion on anything without evidence? I reasonably believe many things with no evidence whatsoever. Again, I'm not saying this will fail, I'm just saying it's ridiculous to suggest it cannot. There's too many people in this thread who seem so utterly convinced that this cannot in any way be stopped. You might be in for a shock. Are you really saying you can knock a multi-million pound deal back, based on a reasonable opinion without evidence Well thats exactly what the rules say so yeah Think you need to do a bit more research on law: An opinion is a judgment based on facts, an honest attempt to draw a reasonable conclusion from factual evidence We are talking about the internal rules of a company explaining how they run their business. Their rules clearly give them enough room to decide what ever they want when it's in the grey area. I doubt there's a section in UK law about who gets to play in the Premierleague? Yes, I think there is a struggle in peoples minds between Law and Business. PL could conclude whatever they want but it would need to be watertight, otherwise they will get sued for damages etc, which would cost the PL a fortune. They may have some evidence that hasnt been divulged. It would need to be extremely watertight for them to reject it with what would amount to criminal allegations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Dare I ask, any updates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I'm starting to think we've got it the wrong way round. The Premier league want the takeover and are doing a Cummings, trying to find excuses to get round reasons why they should stop it ie piracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 That's the attitude kidda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Dare I ask, any updates? Had a quick wank - solid 5/7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Must be getting close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie john Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Must be getting close. Are you referring to Darth Crooks activities? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Must be getting close. Edging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Are you seriously saying that nobody can have a reasonable opinion on anything without evidence? I reasonably believe many things with no evidence whatsoever. Again, I'm not saying this will fail, I'm just saying it's ridiculous to suggest it cannot. There's too many people in this thread who seem so utterly convinced that this cannot in any way be stopped. You might be in for a shock. Are you really saying you can knock a multi-million pound deal back, based on a reasonable opinion without evidence Well thats exactly what the rules say so yeah Think you need to do a bit more research on law: An opinion is a judgment based on facts, an honest attempt to draw a reasonable conclusion from factual evidence We are talking about the internal rules of a company explaining how they run their business. Their rules clearly give them enough room to decide what ever they want when it's in the grey area. I doubt there's a section in UK law about who gets to play in the Premierleague? Based on evidence that is law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 If the PIF is rejected, could they feasibly buy us through Aramaco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 If the PIF is rejected, could they feasibly buy us through Aramaco? Al-Rumayyan is the Chairman of Aramco so if this takeover fails then there is no chance Aramco can complete a takeover, all issues (human rights, piracy etc) would be the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 If the PIF is rejected, could they feasibly buy us through Aramaco? Al-Rumayyan is the Chairman of Aramco so if this takeover fails then there is no chance Aramco can complete a takeover, all issues (human rights, piracy etc) would be the same Ah ok, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Well George’s opinion is it will get the green light, safe to say buyers are still confident. Good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I'm starting to think we've got it the wrong way round. The Premier league want the takeover and are doing a Cummings, trying to find excuses to get round reasons why they should stop it ie piracy. this is what i've been saying for weeks, imo they're covering their arses and trying to find ways to sell the decision to their broadcasting partners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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