Cronky Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) I did wonder whether Wilson has been protecting his hamstring. I don't think he's been going at full pelt, and in my suspicious mind, I wondered if he was saving himself for the World Cup. It now looks like there's a longer term problem (surprise, surprise) Isak looks better in a withdrawn or wide role, so it wouldn't surprise me if we still went for Pedro. Edited August 25, 2022 by Cronky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 RIP Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cronky said: I do wonder whether Wilson has been protecting his hamstring. I don't think he's been going at full pelt, and in my suspicious mind, I wondered if he was saving himself for the World Cup. It now looks like there's a longer term problem (surprise, surprise) Isak looks better in a withdrawn or wide role, so it wouldn't surprise me if we still went for Pedro. He looked a bit off pace against Forest I thought but until he came off against City he was moving pretty well. I think he’s always prone to injuries as we’ve seen. Hamstrings are very tricky to manage particularly at this level. Even if it’s minor it will be a few weeks out. You wonder if this move for Isak comes after knowledge he may be out much longer. Edited August 25, 2022 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: He looked a bit off pace against Forest I thought but until he came off against City he was moving pretty well. I think he’s always prone to injuries as we’ve seen. Hamstrings are very tricky to manage particularly at this level. Even if it’s minor it will be a few weeks out. You wonder if this move for Isak comes after knowledge he may be out much longer. I just don’t think we can take the risk at this stage of our growth plan on someone who is already feeling an injury three games in. Fantastic player but totally unreliable fitness across a 40+ game season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I don’t think he’ll go the World Cup even if fit at the time. Too much of an injury risk. I’d love to see him there though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: I just don’t think we can take the risk at this stage of our growth plan on someone who is already feeling an injury three games in. Fantastic player but totally unreliable fitness across a 40+ game season. I agree. You can’t look to push on in the league and have cup runs relying on Wilson up front. It’s totally unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Massive shame because he's class. Hopefully if Isak is good, Wilson coming on for 20-30 minutes or the odd spell of games here and there might mean he's a handy squad player moving forward and can manage his issues better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 He's one of those players that he wouldn't have been anywhere near Mike Ashley's Newcastle without the injury problems. So in a weird way, we only have him because his hamstrings are made of play dough. It's so shit for him on a personal level. He has the ability to play for England and be a 15-20 goal Barclays striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 weeks? That's nothing compared to what I was thinking. I had already cone to terms with him being out for at least 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 If it really is 3 weeks that's nbd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: If it really is 3 weeks that's nbd Well, it’s three weeks this time. But there will be a next time and a time after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 If it is 3 weeks, I can’t see the Isak deal being a reaction to that news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Massive shame because he's class. Hopefully if Isak is good, Wilson coming on for 20-30 minutes or the odd spell of games here and there might mean he's a handy squad player moving forward and can manage his issues better. Yeah good point. This might be how we can get something out of him whilst limiting his injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Isak will fill the Wilson void with aplomb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We all know that Howe doesn't throw new players into the mix immediately. By the time Isak is ready to take on a full game, it'd probably be after Wilson recovers. I'd be surprised if Isak starts at Wolves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 He isn't going to play v Wolves ? But I don't think Howe will have as much choice now, I expect him to be at least on the bench v Liverpool and then probably start the game after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Emotic said: We all know that Howe doesn't throw new players into the mix immediately. By the time Isak is ready to take on a full game, it'd probably be after Wilson recovers. I'd be surprised if Isak starts at Wolves. I think it depends on the situation. With Trippier and Pope he didn't waste much time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, LeeB said: I think it depends on the situation. With Trippier and Pope he didn't waste much time. Both have Premier League experience. Isak won’t start. He’ll work him in Bruno style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Emotic said: We all know that Howe doesn't throw new players into the mix immediately. By the time Isak is ready to take on a full game, it'd probably be after Wilson recovers. I'd be surprised if Isak starts at Wolves. Agreed, which is why I feel the Isak move wasn’t a direct result of the Wilson injury as some have suggested. Edited August 25, 2022 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Agreed, which is why I feel the Isak move wasn’t a direct result of the Wilson injury has some have suggested. Completey agree with this, they wanted him earlier than this week, just Real has finally agreed to lower the price as no one has paid the release clause and they want to cash in with time to reinvest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 weeks can quickly develop into 3 months if his recovery doesn't go as planned and he has set backs. We saw that last season with his calf injury. Thank god we're getting Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 weeks from him "feeling it" and coming off as a precaution is in insane. Forget Glass, he's made of polystyrene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, Conjo said: 3 weeks can quickly develop into 3 months if his recovery doesn't go as planned and he has set backs. We saw that last season with his calf injury. Thank god we're getting Isak. When he got injured last season he’d played every game pretty much as we had no other striking option. I hope the improved fitness and full pre-season means it’s only a small hamstring injury. I think they’ll manage him better to avoid longer term problems and if Isak comes in that’ll work in his favour anyway. He’ll have to accept that his body just isn’t up to playing every game but he still has a massive role to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 He’ll be out 3 weeks minimum won’t he and it could easily be much longer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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