Candi_Hills Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Yeah, but only because the broken structure of football means it’s the only way to compete. Imagine a PL in which the greedy 6 have left and we're bankrolled into becoming as strong as the teams in the mega league. We'd walk it every year and it would fucking stink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 The thing that annoys me most and should annoy all other football fans the most imo is the intent behind this when you look at the structure and the numbers. It's essentially just content creation. With the lack of competition for entry and the structure of the rounds and the prize money there is really 0 competitive incentive. It's just there to be there. And to drive ad revenue by its existence and it's starting with what it see's as the most "attractive brands" to ensure the highest audience figures possible. More than anything it just all sounds so fucking boring and unspectacular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, jdckelly said: honestly I'd think they'd like that, why risk their assets playing for somebody who's not them Exactly what was said on Sky when they were quoting a board member of one of the big six, said they'd love that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Fucking rich yanks man. Knocking bet the games will be played in quarters as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 The Premier League should just kick them out. They can have their league and we can rebuild from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, jdckelly said: honestly I'd think they'd like that, why risk their assets playing for somebody who's not them Players do like playing for their countries though. It would make them think twice about who to sign for and could go a long way in undermining the ESL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Candi_Hills said: Players do like playing for their countries though. It would make them think twice about who to sign for and could go a long way in undermining the ESL. thing is its funny what a big wad of cash can do to someones opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, ED209 said: do we all not want Newcastle to get taken over with and start buying things with erm oil money? Not all of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 You can’t really expect players not to play in it. Harry Kane isn’t going to do his job for half the salary just so he can play for England. Maybe the odd one, but I can’t see it happening a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Candi_Hills said: Imagine a PL in which the greedy 6 have left and we're bankrolled into becoming as strong as the teams in the mega league. We'd walk it every year and it would fucking stink. Yep. Football is fucked now it’s too far gone. There should have been salary and spending caps as well as a certain amount of your squad having to be homegrown/ from your academy from just after the PL started, or certainly before the 100k plus a week contracts became the norm. Should have been a limit of £25 a ticket and standing sections too. It’s too far gone and this implosion has been coming for a a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2021/april/big-six-shirt-amnesty-launched/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: And whilst you perhaps couldn't exile the clubs from the competition I would wager you'll be able to stop players playing in domestic leagues and cups if they are playing in the Super League. Certainly they could be barred from International selection, looking at Rugby Union as an example. That's a really good point. Someone like Jonny Wilkinson only moved to Toulon after his England career was over. I half remember Toby Flood moving to France when he was earlier in his career and could have perhaps played for England a few more times instead. All the money was in the French league then, perhaps still is judging by what Saracens did or tried to do. I do think it's easier (but still very worthwhile) for rugby to adopt a take the money or play for national team stance because money is relatively new to the sport having only been officially professional since the mid 90s whereas football has had a headstart on greed. To mix yet more further sporting similarities, this whole thing goes away if the football authorities fully ostracise the rebels like in the World Series Cricket days (but perhaps with more long term success). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Apparently the government are considering options such as making the ESL a national interest, so the games legally have to be broadcast on free to air TV, which would massively devalue the broadcasting rights. Not giving them work permits when required. Not giving them policing permits, so games can not be policed and therefore can not go ahead. Taxing them, and heavily. Edited April 19, 2021 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Danish Uefa guy says he expects Chelsea, Man City and Real Madrid to be kicked out the Champions League this week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, jdckelly said: thing is its funny what a big wad of cash can do to someones opinion True, but they do still like their world cups. I couldn't see someone with Ronaldo or Haaland's drive sacking off their country. You'd have to think the likes of Bayern, Dortmund, PSG (for now), oil-rich Newcastle and a few other good sides would become pretty attractive places to play. The super league wouldn't have it all their way, I don't think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, geordie_b said: Theres nothing stopping each countries FAs from banning players from their national team is there? You don’t have a right to be picked for the international team so I can’t see a legal comeback. It would be like when the England Rugby team would only select domestic players (don’t know if that’s still a thing) I think the issue would initially be that they are contracted to those clubs now so seems unfair to ban them mid-contract. Hopefully new signings would be fair game if they want to take that route... would certainly highlight player priorities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Was reading the yellow banner on SSN about the Premier League meeting tomorrow that they would be discussing proposals. Would love to know what they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, ED209 said: do we all not want Newcastle to get taken over with and start buying things with erm oil money? No, I want them to be taken over by someone with the clubs best interests at heart. Someone who will run the club with ambition as a sporting institution not a as company. That's is, I don't care if they spend hundreds or millions extra. As long as they use all of the clubs money, try to grow revenue and speculate a little to try to build the club. That doesn't require oil money, in fact in all honestly I'd rather that then doing a Man City. Because I just think that without the possibility of risk and failure, true competition, then success will feel a bit shite. Of course if given a choice between Ashley's utter death of the club vs the Man City approach I'd choose the later. But my preferred option is honest competition and ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, BlueStar said: Danish Uefa guy says he expects Chelsea, Man City and Real Madrid to be kicked out the Champions League this week Surely that would also mean Arsenal and Man Utd get kicked out of the Europa League as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Was reading the yellow banner on SSN about the Premier League meeting tomorrow that they would be discussing proposals. Would love to know what they are. How to bend over without looking like we're being bent over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Candi_Hills said: True, but they do still like their world cups. I couldn't see someone with Ronaldo or Haaland's drive sacking off their country. You'd have to think the likes of Bayern, Dortmund, PSG (for now), oil-rich Newcastle and a few other good sides would become pretty attractive places to play. The super league wouldn't have it all their way, I don't think. depends on the player, theres no way I can see Ronaldo or Messi giving up international football for this shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stifler said: Surely that would also mean Arsenal and Man Utd get kicked out of the Europa League as well? easier to sort out than the champions league atm since it would mean psg winning by default and they're likely to fuck off to the ESL at the first opportune moment post world cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Mark Wilson on Twitter: "A really strange feeling outside Elland Road tonight. #lfc fans displaying their banner, #lufc fans in total support. There is utter disbelief here.... https://t.co/STbQBq1may" / Twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 It’s really sad seeing those fans - just cannon fodder and ordinary people that mean absolutely nothing to the men making the decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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