Stifler Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) In my opinion the FA are hanging the Premier League out to dry here. Where is the statements from them? The Premier League are scrambling to make statement to show they mean business without any sort of backing of what they can do. Meanwhile the FA are sat back thinking their job is being handled. The FA should be backing the Premier League, they should have been involved in the meeting today. This doesn’t just effect the Premier League, but the whole domestic game. The FA should be saying the League Cup final is postponed. They should be backing the Premier League up by saying we’ll allow you to postpone the top 6 clubs fixtures and run a table without them until we have further clarity on what and if they are going to involved. Both the FA and Premier League need to be acting as if they are gone. It’s not just the Premier League who have to work around this. Is the EFL going to have to bring in 6 new clubs? Is there going to be massive changes in the league structures? Edited April 20, 2021 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sima said: That statement from The Premier League It's a wonder they actucally have referees in games with them being so allergic to making decisions. Masters and Hoffman are probably fully in support of it really. They're probably insisting to the government that they have it all covered knowing full well that their rules won't stand up in court to prevent it, and by the time that plays out it'll be too late. Edited April 20, 2021 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Stifler said: In my opinion the FA are hanging the Premier League out to dry here. Where is the statements from them? The Premier League are scrambling to make statement to show they mean business without any sort of backing of what they can do. Meanwhile the FA are sat back thinking their job is being handled. The FA should be backing the Premier League, they should have been involved in the meeting today. This doesn’t just effect the Premier League, but the whole domestic game. The FA should be saying the League Cup final is postponed. They should be backing the Premier League up by saying we’ll allow you to postpone the top 6 clubs fixtures and run a table without them until we have further clarity on what and if they are going to involved. Both the FA and Premier League need to be acting as if they are gone. It’s not just the Premier League who have to work around this. Is the EFL going to have to bring in 6 new clubs? Is there going to be massive changes in the league structures? The FA were involved in the meeting today. Agree they should be making a statement though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, OCK said: TV Revenue shared equally amongst all clubs? That's communism! This is another point. SSN are saying the Premier League clubs are willing to have the top 6 back, however certain owners and directors have to go (fit & proper owners test ?). However if they comeback then it has to be on level terms. No more top 6 clubs getting a bigger share of the sponsorship and broadcast deals. Everyone in the league gets the same, with a smaller league placing bonus to encourage you to want to finish as high up as possible. No more automatic right to more money or power. Every 3 years when the TV deals are due to be renewed we hear rumblings of an ESL which they say in order to bluff their way to a bigger slice of the pie. It has to be no more and has to be a condition of them coming back. The top 6 clubs saying they are willing to negotiate is them saying they want to hold a gun to our head again, it has to be stamped out. Edited April 20, 2021 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Not to piss on anyone's chips, but there's absolutely no chance they're being kicked out the league/suspended etc. At least not before the thing's actually gone beyond this initial statement. Nor do I particularly think they should. You can't on the one hand argue that football clubs are more than the current legal entities and those that own them, and on the other petition to erase them from the history books. Focus needs to be on nipping this in the bud and then regulating ownership and taking back control if at all possible. Admittedly that's easier said than done, especially when the best example of it in practice, 50+1 in Germany, was actually handing over increased commercial ownership of football clubs that had previously been NFPs. Would support UEFA taking a hard-line approach mind and banning them for a period, with it being a more direct attack on CL. Edited April 20, 2021 by Anderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 If they truly don’t can’t about the “legacy” fans (fuck off) any longer and are squarely aiming this at the younger market, what Neville said last night makes sense. They might not even go for Amazon or Disney or whatever streaming it. They might handle all coverage themselves. Neville said, while holding his mobile phone, 150 million Manure fans worldwide (is that right?) paying £1 every week to watch the games on mobile phones or tablets. £150 million per week. Not too shabby to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Miggys First Goal said: If they truly don’t can’t about the “legacy” fans (fuck off) any longer and are squarely aiming this at the younger market, what Neville said last night makes sense. They might not even go for Amazon or Disney or whatever streaming it. They might handle all coverage themselves. Neville said, while holding his mobile phone, 150 million Manure fans worldwide (is that right?) paying £1 every week to watch the games on mobile phones or tablets. £150 million per week. Not too shabby to be honest. They'll need an infrastructure to be able to do that and if they were threatening to start in August there's no where near enough time for them to get that sorted. They must have a partner or agreed carriers already. Edited April 20, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, hakka said: Fuck me, is that really a flood of bots all posting pro ESL stuff on twitter? - quite a few in that Bayern thread. Loads from Africa/Asia and the US from what I have seen so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 You underestimate Football Twitter if you're calling them all bots. A lot of kids with plenty of time now school's finished for the day wanting bites Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Arsenal could really come out of this bad if it doesnt go ahead. Their chronic lack of investment means they aint getting in any existing lucrative competition any time soon and their debts are massive. They seem desperate to be able to start paying some stuff back and reluctant to spend. Edited April 20, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Much like the statement from Sky Sports last night. Whilst they both says they have not been involved in any Super League discussions (so far), neither of them go on to condemn it, and/or rule out any future discussions. Incidentally, have BeinSport (and/or their hairy handed sexist pundit) distanced themselves yet?? Edited April 20, 2021 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) LOC meaning Champions League, "League of Champions" the guy's French Edited April 20, 2021 by nbthree3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: That's really great I think, totally undermines the SL. Bayern are European Champions and massive internationally, how can it call itself a Super League? I actually think the PL could kick them out - they obviously don't want to, but the SL will massively cut PL's revenue and international appeal, so can see them throwing everything at stopping this. Edited April 20, 2021 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, TK-421 said: Much like the statement from Sky Sports last night. Whilst they both says they have not been involved in any Super League discussions (so far), neither of them go onto condemn it, and say they wouldn't in future, though! Incidentally, have BeinSport (and/or their hairy handed sexist pundit) distanced themselves yet?? If they try and design their own streaming platform or something, it will be disastrously shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, nbthree3 said: So the bullies will probably win in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Yeah, a tactic to keep them in without forming the breakaway. I'd rather, if this is to happen and that's final, that things happened within the existing pyramid as it isn't 3/4 a closed shop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: LOC meaning Champions League, "League of Champions" the guy's French LOC? League of Clubs - what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 level of competition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: I really hope that this is bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, TK-421 said: Much like the statement from Sky Sports last night. Whilst they both says they have not been involved in any Super League discussions (so far), neither of them go on to condemn it, and/or rule out any future discussions. Incidentally, have BeinSport (and/or their hairy handed sexist pundit) distanced themselves yet?? He's to busy still trying to wind us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 LOC is League of Champions which is really a new Champions League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, deejeck said: I really hope that this is bollocks. If it comes but with the 12 clubs banned for the first few years then ok. To placate them no thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, hakka said: We have consider what the damage is from binning the top 6 from the PL. The PL and it's payments to clubs is based on current and future years payments of it's broadcaster deals. I don't know the pull of the top 6 has in relative terms to all the deals the PL has with all broadcasters, but if those broadcasters lose a chunk of subscribers, say 20%, that amount will be hundreds of millions of pounds that which the broadcasters can't pay to the PL. If the PL doesn't get the money, then the clubs don't get paid their money. We already know most clubs overspend or are fully dependant on it, wiping out a large chunk of it could start a chain reaction that collapses the whole thing. Appreciate it's a crude description, but I think that's the sort of reasons why it must be done pragmatically and with deep thought. No point chucking out the top 6 if it's enough to destroy the whole thing. But income is and has never been a problem since the advent of the Premier League and Champions League, its the level of expenditure and the vast majority of that is linked to increasing income levels - i.e. players wages, transfer fees and agents. Take the income down 10% and these will need to fall accordingly. Short term there is a problem whilst existing contracts wind through but the existing TV deals should help navigate this period. It's also why the SL won't fix the clubs debt problems. Do we really think Haaland's agent won't be all over the increased revenue and £500k a week suddenly becomes a demand of £1m. A SL league club want to take Neymar in - £500m please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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