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Don't think that there will be any need for a fire sale this time around, but can't see many of our international players wanting to hang around in the lower leagues even just for a season in the run up to a World Cup.

 

Yup, that's what I was getting at. Due to the (now not so) clever recruitment we'll be able to turn a profit on all of them anyway you'd have thought despite the worst happening.

 

Keeping disenfranchised players at the club isn't going to benefit anyone as we've seen previously.

 

I'm not sure I agree with this completely. Things can turn around pretty quickly in football - people might be champing at the bit to leave if we go down, but a season dominating the Championship and an instant promotion might actually be alright of them.

 

No doubt some players will want to leave, but keeping some might not be a disaster as long as we come straight back up. In general it's too easy for players to ditch a relegated club.

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After the Chelsea game this seemed inconceivable, last time there was a real feeling of something to blame or an understandable cause for us going down, and that allowed the club to come back with a purpose. This time it's like we've sleepwalked through most of the season and woken up on the edge of a cliff, and so far it seems like the drowsiness hasn't lifted and we're going to head on over, while most of the other clubs are running away full pelt.

 

Perfect analogy. Exactly how I feel and partly why I'm seething at the whole situation which, imo, was all too obvious for those watching the team week-in, week-out, to see. It was all so avoidable if Pardew had woken the fuck up / had been ditched a lot sooner.

 

Terrified we're on our way.

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We're in freefall, just can't see us staying up right now. QPR will play with no pressure and will play well imo, and with our toothless frontline, we'll struggle even against them I reckon.

 

Arsenal is a guranteed loss I think, unless Pardew gives the teamtalk of his life. Wigan are also just too up for it, my fingers are crossed but I don't see us squeezing out of this nightmare, hope to god I'm wrong :(

I see a common contradiction in this miserable, depressing but unfortunately necessary thread. Any team who have nothing at stake are "on their holidays" when they're playing one of our rivals at the bottom, but when they're playing us they are "playing with no pressure".

Can't believe we've reached a point of fearing an already relegated club, rock bottom, with 2 points from their last 6 games according to the form table.

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After the Chelsea game this seemed inconceivable, last time there was a real feeling of something to blame or an understandable cause for us going down, and that allowed the club to come back with a purpose. This time it's like we've sleepwalked through most of the season and woken up on the edge of a cliff, and so far it seems like the drowsiness hasn't lifted and we're going to head on over, while most of the other clubs are running away full pelt.

 

Perfect analogy. Exactly how I feel and partly why I'm seething at the whole situation which, imo, was all too obvious for those watching the team week-in, week-out, to see. It was all so avoidable if Pardew had woken the fuck up / had been ditched a lot sooner.

 

Terrified we're on our way.

 

As an outsider, your drive into the relegation fight has been a gigantic surprise.

 

If you look at the other clubs down there - us with a team full of kids, we were always going to struggle this year, Norwich with no proven goalscorer and a weak squad, Sunderland having been taken back to the 1980s by MON and then handed over to a league one fascist nutjob, Southampton the newly promoted side, Wigan the perennial strugglers - all of those clubs you can say it is no massive surprise to see them in the relegation battle, but you lot?

 

A look at where you finished last year, and the sort of season you had, then another look at your squad, and it is utterly inexplicable.

 

Actually, it isn't inexplicable, there's really only one possible reason for that - the manager. I bet you if you did a straw poll of the rest of the country, though, they'd all think Pardew was doing a decent job.

 

That's largely how we felt last year when told we weren't giving McLeish a chance, or that he too was doing a decent job.

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Nahhhh, man. The 3G connection in St James isn't cut out for that kind of shit.

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Nailed on IMO:

 

http://i40.tinypic.com/o8glf5.jpg

 

F*cking hell :lol:

 

Sometimes I change results for effect, this time it was my gut and first thoughts. My gut just dropped, off for a shit.  :lol:

 

Going down to goals scored rather than just GD, that would be awful.

 

 

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Ok- so if Wigan win tonight we drop into bottom three- but is that really as bad as it appears?- it keeps pressure on the sides just above Sunderland, and forces them, southampton etc, to perform in remaining games.

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Ok- so if Wigan win tonight we drop into bottom three- but is that really as bad as it appears?- it keeps pressure on the sides just above Sunderland, and forces them, southampton etc, to perform in remaining games.

 

Essentially it doesn't matter either way, if we don't beat QPR we are fucked, if we do we are very very likely to survive.

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Ok- so if Wigan win tonight we drop into bottom three- but is that really as bad as it appears?- it keeps pressure on the sides just above Sunderland, and forces them, southampton etc, to perform in remaining games.

 

Essentially it doesn't matter either way, if we don't beat QPR we are f***ed, if we do we are very very likely to survive.

 

That is true, I very much doubt Wigan will drop. Its us or Norwich IMO and it all hinges on the QPR game.

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