GuyP Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The thing about Stoke is that, out of all the other strugglers, they really lack the players to produce moments of magic. That can be important when you need a boost out of nowhere. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02361/owen_2361720b.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 We're down to one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The thing about Stoke is that, out of all the other strugglers, they really lack the players to produce moments of magic. That can be important when you need a boost out of nowhere. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02361/owen_2361720b.jpg http://live4liverpool.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Owen-injury.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 We're down to one. Nah, HBA, Cisse, even Sissoko can force a goal. Cabaye from a freekick. Not that they've been doing it much recently, but in theory! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The guy in the Chronicle seems to think Villa will go down and seems to think that they have the worst run in. I would have to largely disagree with that. they have 3 very winnable games and he has given them something like 2 points from their last 5 games. This weekend there is a few teams down there who play each other, Stoke vs QPR for example. A result one Saturday could go a long way in my opinion. Is that Neil Cameron or something? Honestly, his articles are ten times worse than Ryders. Everytime I read them I cringe to fuck. Yeah I just don't get it. In my opinion Villa have one of the best fixture lists, or at least the most opportunist. Because of that I would say they are safe even though I wouldn't be adverse to seeing them go down I just can't see it. However if Villa don't take at least 1 win out of those games then they would probably deserve to go down. Man Utd away next game then Sunderland at home in a 6 pointer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The guy in the Chronicle seems to think Villa will go down and seems to think that they have the worst run in. I would have to largely disagree with that. they have 3 very winnable games and he has given them something like 2 points from their last 5 games. This weekend there is a few teams down there who play each other, Stoke vs QPR for example. A result one Saturday could go a long way in my opinion. Is that Neil Cameron or something? Honestly, his articles are ten times worse than Ryders. Everytime I read them I cringe to fuck. Yeah I just don't get it. In my opinion Villa have one of the best fixture lists, or at least the most opportunist. Because of that I would say they are safe even though I wouldn't be adverse to seeing them go down I just can't see it. However if Villa don't take at least 1 win out of those games then they would probably deserve to go down. Man Utd away next game then Sunderland at home in a 6 pointer. Sunderland, Norwich, and Wigan are the 3 games I'm referring to. If your down at the bottom you would have to fancy taking some points out off them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roy the Irish Magpie Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I can see the games against mackems and Norwich being draws for Villa. And they won't be getting past Wigan, did you see the game at villa park? Wigan destroyed them, 3-0 but could have been more as Wigan had blatant peno waved away and all, and with safety on the line I'd be confident in saying Wigan will beat them again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Really worried about us looking at the fixtures. Our home fixtures are against CL-chasing Arsenal and a Liverpool side that could destroy us by 3+ goals if they click on the day (I loathe them, but Rodgers has them playing some nice stuff). Then there's our away form. We could be facing Grimsby, Port Vale and Scunthorpe and I wouldn't feel confident. Really relying on others to not catch us, more than anything IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Yeah. I do think we'll fluke another win somehow, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 We'll not lose 5 games in a row. We will do the absolute minimum to stay up. Cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Then there's our away form. We could be facing Grimsby, Port Vale and Scunthorpe and I wouldn't feel confident. The crux of the problem. The second worst away record in the division and three away fixtures from the last five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 1 win in our last 6 and that was a last minute winner. Not good form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm a lukewarm 6 on the relegationometer, still can't see us going down. This is even if we lose tomorrow, which we more than probably will. This entire season has turned into one giant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 This weekend is a big one. Partly for us - although I'm expecting 1 pt at the most - but mostly for the other scores. West Ham need to get something against Wigan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Really worried about us looking at the fixtures. Our home fixtures are against CL-chasing Arsenal and a Liverpool side that could destroy us by 3+ goals if they click on the day (I loathe them, but Rodgers has them playing some nice stuff). Then there's our away form. We could be facing Grimsby, Port Vale and Scunthorpe and I wouldn't feel confident. Really relying on others to not catch us, more than anything IMO. My thoughts exactly. The problem is that we're not in a position which allows us to rely on others' results (or at least we won't be if/when Wigan beat Swansea), the margin is too small. We need at least another win, and I really struggle to see where the hell it could come from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Really worried about us looking at the fixtures. Our home fixtures are against CL-chasing Arsenal and a Liverpool side that could destroy us by 3+ goals if they click on the day (I loathe them, but Rodgers has them playing some nice stuff). Then there's our away form. We could be facing Grimsby, Port Vale and Scunthorpe and I wouldn't feel confident. Really relying on others to not catch us, more than anything IMO. My thoughts exactly. The problem is that we're not in a position which allows us to rely on others' results (or at least we won't be if/when Wigan beat Swansea), the margin is too small. We need at least another win, and I really struggle to see where the hell it could come from. 20/1 to go down. Get on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Really worried about us looking at the fixtures. Our home fixtures are against CL-chasing Arsenal and a Liverpool side that could destroy us by 3+ goals if they click on the day (I loathe them, but Rodgers has them playing some nice stuff). Then there's our away form. We could be facing Grimsby, Port Vale and Scunthorpe and I wouldn't feel confident. Really relying on others to not catch us, more than anything IMO. My thoughts exactly. The problem is that we're not in a position which allows us to rely on others' results (or at least we won't be if/when Wigan beat Swansea), the margin is too small. We need at least another win, and I really struggle to see where the hell it could come from. 20/1 to go down. Get on it. I don't get this kind of posts. I'm not saying we're going down, I don't want us to go down: still, this doesn't prevent me from seeing it as it actually is, and it is hard. Many say "we're gonna be fine", I don't manage do that as it's based on nothing but blind faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 We'll not lose 5 games in a row. We will do the absolute minimum to stay up. c***s. Twice this season we've had runs of four losses and a draw in 5 games. I'm not taking anything for granted until the points are on the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 "Premier League survival: Who will beat the drop and who'll go down?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22143766 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Really worried about us looking at the fixtures. Our home fixtures are against CL-chasing Arsenal and a Liverpool side that could destroy us by 3+ goals if they click on the day (I loathe them, but Rodgers has them playing some nice stuff). Then there's our away form. We could be facing Grimsby, Port Vale and Scunthorpe and I wouldn't feel confident. Really relying on others to not catch us, more than anything IMO. My thoughts exactly. The problem is that we're not in a position which allows us to rely on others' results (or at least we won't be if/when Wigan beat Swansea), the margin is too small. We need at least another win, and I really struggle to see where the hell it could come from. 20/1 to go down. Get on it. I don't get this kind of posts. I'm not saying we're going down, I don't want us to go down: still, this doesn't prevent me from seeing it as it actually is, and it is hard. Many say "we're gonna be fine", I don't manage do that as it's based on nothing but blind faith. I'm just thinking if you think relegation is as big a danger as you're suggesting then 20/1 are huge odds. Might as well soften the blow a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 How would you go about calculating the likelihood of us going down? What would you factor in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I'd factor him saying he doesn't see where we're going to win our next match as a strong factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I'm not necessarily disagreeing by the way, the way we're playing there's no game I'm thinking well we'll definitely win that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I think our only chance to get some points on the road is that opponents don't turn up. Chances are we'd blow it anyway though, like we did at Swansea (who lost every single game, apart from a draw last week, since winning the League Cup by the way). I mean with such an abysmal away record all season you've got to be optmistic as f*** to think we're winning somewhere and that we're gonna be fine. And IF we don't pick up points away from home we've got to beat at least Liverpool and possibly try and get something out of the Arsenal game: are we up to that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 If you're like this in our position I dread to think what state you'd be in if you were a Stoke or Norwich fan Seriously I don't think we're certain to stay up, I doubt anyone does and it's certainly worrying. But we're still pretty unlikely to go down. Another 4 points would guarantee survival IMO, and even on current form we're capable of getting those points. Its also quite likely that less than 40 would be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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