AsprillasShinPad Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I grew up watching KK's side. So it's not like I haven't seen good players for us. My argument is they are "reasonable" players which ASP said we only had three Compared to KK's side, only Dubravka would get a game. The others wouldn't even get onto the bench. Dubravka > Hislop Yedlin << Barton Fernandez << Albert Lascelles < Howey Dummett << Beresford Kenedy <<<< Gilespie Diame << Batty Shelvey << Lee Ritchie <<<< Ginola Perez <<<<<<< Ferdinand Rondon <<<< Shearer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I grew up watching KK's side. So it's not like I haven't seen good players for us. My argument is they are "reasonable" players which ASP said we only had three Compared to KK's side, only Dubravka would get a game. The others wouldn't even get onto the bench. Dubravka > Hislop Yedlin << Barton Fernandez << Albert Lascelles < Howey Dummett << Beresford Kenedy <<<< Gilespie Diame << Batty Shelvey << Lee Ritchie <<<< Ginola Perez <<<<<<< Ferdinand Rondon <<<< Shearer What makes you think Dubravka is better than Shaka was?? id have to say no he isn't its just since Shay left weve been left with shit goalkeepers Dubravka is good but how shit the previous ones have been has made him look so much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I grew up watching KK's side. So it's not like I haven't seen good players for us. My argument is they are "reasonable" players which ASP said we only had three Compared to KK's side, only Dubravka would get a game. The others wouldn't even get onto the bench. Dubravka > Hislop Yedlin << Barton Fernandez << Albert Lascelles < Howey Dummett << Beresford Kenedy <<<< Gilespie Diame << Batty Shelvey << Lee Ritchie <<<< Ginola Perez <<<<<<< Ferdinand Rondon <<<< Shearer What makes you think Dubravka is better than Shaka was?? id have to say no he isn't its just since Shay left weve been left with shit goalkeepers Dubravka is good but how shit the previous ones have been has made him look so much better Lee was substantially better than Voldemort. No question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Overrating Shaka somewhat there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Overrating Shaka somewhat there. Shaka made a few mistakes especially in his early days where he was like Dracula (afraid of crosses) but overall he was a decent keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I grew up watching KK's side. So it's not like I haven't seen good players for us. My argument is they are "reasonable" players which ASP said we only had three Compared to KK's side, only Dubravka would get a game. The others wouldn't even get onto the bench. Dubravka > Hislop Yedlin << Barton Fernandez << Albert Lascelles < Howey Dummett << Beresford Kenedy <<<< Gilespie Diame << Batty Shelvey << Lee Ritchie <<<< Ginola Perez <<<<<<< Ferdinand Rondon <<<< Shearer What makes you think Dubravka is better than Shaka was?? id have to say no he isn't its just since Shay left weve been left with s*** goalkeepers Dubravka is good but how s*** the previous ones have been has made him look so much better Lee was substantially better than Voldemort. No question. That's what I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I grew up watching KK's side. So it's not like I haven't seen good players for us. My argument is they are "reasonable" players which ASP said we only had three Compared to KK's side, only Dubravka would get a game. The others wouldn't even get onto the bench. Dubravka > Hislop Yedlin << Barton Fernandez << Albert Lascelles < Howey Dummett << Beresford Kenedy <<<< Gilespie Diame << Batty Shelvey << Lee Ritchie <<<< Ginola Perez <<<<<<< Ferdinand Rondon <<<< Shearer I know, but that wasn't what you or I was arguing. Wasn't arguing, I just enjoy torturing us all by making us remember just how good we were, and just how shit we are now. Personally, I think Dalgleish is an utter cunt for taking that team apart and drafting in his old mates who were shit. I (and I bet he) wish that KK never left too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Not even the best 11 that Keegan put on the pitch for is there. Which kinda proves the point all the more. I'd maybe have Fernandez partnering Albert though, as much as I liked Howey and Peacock was unfairly maligned at times we did miss someone who just put themselves between ball and goal at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Lee only 2x better than shelvey??...come on man Shearer only 4x better than Rondon....wtf and Keith Gillespie was light years ahead of Kenedy probably a 6 or 7x needed there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Lee only 2x better than shelvey??...come on man Shearer only 4x better than Rondon....wtf and Keith Gillespie was light years ahead of Kenedy probably a 6 or 7x needed there I haven't done it mathematically accurately, man. Just rough > or < For argument's sake, if I used numbers (out of 10): 6 Hislop 7 Barton 8 Albert 7 Howey 7 Gilespie 7 Batty 8 Lee 8 Ginola 9 Ferdinand 10 Shearer 6 Dubravka 3 Yedlin 5 Fernandez 4 Scharr 4 Dummett 5 Shelvey 1 Diame 3 Ritchie 0 Kenedy 1 Perez 4 Rondon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Lee only 2x better than shelvey??...come on man Shearer only 4x better than Rondon....wtf and Keith Gillespie was light years ahead of Kenedy probably a 6 or 7x needed there I haven't done it mathematically accurately, man. Just rough > or < For argument's sake, if I used numbers (out of 10): 6 Hislop 7 Barton 8 Albert 7 Howey 7 Gilespie 7 Batty 8 Lee 8 Ginola 9 Ferdinand 10 Shearer 6 Dubravka 3 Yedlin 5 Fernandez 4 Scharr 4 Dummett 5 Shelvey 1 Diame 3 Ritchie 0 Kenedy 1 Perez 4 Rondon Giving Perez a 1 is very Generous and Dummet a 4 is just plain silly and where is Johnny B from Keegans team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Lee only 2x better than shelvey??...come on man Shearer only 4x better than Rondon....wtf and Keith Gillespie was light years ahead of Kenedy probably a 6 or 7x needed there I haven't done it mathematically accurately, man. Just rough > or < For argument's sake, if I used numbers (out of 10): 6 Hislop 7 Barton 8 Albert 7 Howey 7 Gilespie 7 Batty 8 Lee 8 Ginola 9 Ferdinand 10 Shearer 6 Dubravka 3 Yedlin 5 Fernandez 4 Scharr 4 Dummett 5 Shelvey 1 Diame 3 Ritchie 0 Kenedy 1 Perez 4 Rondon Giving Perez a 1 is very Generous and Dummet a 4 is just plain silly and where is Johnny B from Keegans team How could I forget Berry - 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Very hard to pick up wins without goals. I don't know how we are clear tbh, we struggle to score barely a goal a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Very hard to pick up wins without goals. I don't know how we are clear tbh, we struggle to score barely a goal a game. 15 goals in 20 games you need to score goals to win games. At this rate we will be lucky to get 25 to 30 goals all season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 This is gonna be a shit 2019 looking at the teams below and knowing they'll invest, 18th place looks our fighting battle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Will be interesting to see what happens to squad morale at the end of Jan seeing other clubs invest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Still at defcon 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Went from 8 points to 4 points within 10 minutes. Basically relying on Rondon getting to between 12-15 goals to keep us up. Good thing is I think he will manage it: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 You know how we have 4 huge teams in the next 5? In the meantime: Huddersfield v Burnley Burnley v Fulham Cardiff v Huddersfield Southampton v C Palace Fulham v Brighton Burnley v Southampton C Palace v Fulham Think we need Huddersfield to start chipping in, as they all need to take points off each other. Nervous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Away form isn't bad (our 3 losses are to Top 6 teams), we're picking up points consistently elsewhere. Cardiff, Palace, Burnley, Huddersfield, Southampton at home - these games will decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Edgar Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 We may drop into the bottom 3 in the next month or so because of the fixtures, but we have an okayish run from the Wolves away game onwards to the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 You know how we have 4 huge teams in the next 5? In the meantime: Huddersfield v Burnley Burnley v Fulham Cardiff v Huddersfield Southampton v C Palace Fulham v Brighton Burnley v Southampton C Palace v Fulham Think we need Huddersfield to start chipping in, as they all need to take points off each other. Nervous! This is what will see us firmly in the bottom 3 by February Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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