Dokko Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? I don’t think there is a chance of a takeover and anyone who still believes must now surely accept it’s at least nowhere near close because Bruce would simply not still be here. 11 months and people still try to sell this as a matter of when not if. March is upon us and Bruce is still here and the gap is 3pts. Even if it was approved no one is going to pay £350m for a club on the cusp of relegation. This takeover is only happening in peoples heads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Ben Jacobs is on with Steve Wraith tonight, he might have some news. He won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? Don’t think we are almost certain to go down just yet, we’ve had injuries and we’ve had misfortune to have to play Chelsea and Man Utd off the back of three games where we looked improved with Jones. Just get through today and get a few results over the next few weeks and we still stand a chance. Getting Bruce out will help but we still have a chance. However if we finish bottom 3 it will be worse for Premier League than it will be for us. All the gateways to the takeover will be opened by the courts and in determining that the PL deliberately and illegally procrastinated the process, we will either be the 21st club in the PL next season or Ashley will be given so much money that he will sell on the cheap and we will be going straight back up with PIF at the helm. Masters and Hoffman will be gone and there will be more chance of Liverpool and Spurs in the Championship in a couple of seasons than us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? I don’t think there is a chance of a takeover and anyone who still believes must now surely accept it’s at least nowhere near close because Bruce would simply not still be here. 11 months and people still try to sell this as a matter of when not if. March is upon us and Bruce is still here and the gap is 3pts. Even if it was approved no one is going to pay £350m for a club on the cusp of relegation. This takeover is only happening in peoples heads. Now we are speaking some sense and home truths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? I don’t think there is a chance of a takeover and anyone who still believes must now surely accept it’s at least nowhere near close because Bruce would simply not still be here. 11 months and people still try to sell this as a matter of when not if. March is upon us and Bruce is still here and the gap is 3pts. Even if it was approved no one is going to pay £350m for a club on the cusp of relegation. This takeover is only happening in peoples heads. Now we are speaking some sense and home truths. Look forward to hearing the same thing tomorrow lads, keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? I don’t think there is a chance of a takeover and anyone who still believes must now surely accept it’s at least nowhere near close because Bruce would simply not still be here. 11 months and people still try to sell this as a matter of when not if. March is upon us and Bruce is still here and the gap is 3pts. Even if it was approved no one is going to pay £350m for a club on the cusp of relegation. This takeover is only happening in peoples heads. Now we are speaking some sense and home truths. Look forward to hearing the same thing tomorrow lads, keep it up. Ha, tomorrow...you'll be lucky. Loss tonight and it'll be a copy-paste jobby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 My opinion is that this is not a priority for KSA anymore (due to COVID and other political factors). This takeover could've been completed in a week through some clean random Saudi individual. And maybe work on transferring ownership to PIF and dick-measuring with Qatar afterwards.. I have no doubt that Ashley's lawyers will squeeze some compensation and Masters/the PL board might end up resigning in the aftermath but we will be a championship club in freefall by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Seriously wish there is a resolution to this soon. So we can attempt to save our season or I can just walk away completely and watch Ashley get what he deserves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 My opinion is that this is not a priority for KSA anymore (due to COVID and other political factors). This takeover could've been completed in a week through some clean random Saudi individual. And maybe work on transferring ownership to PIF and dick-measuring with Qatar afterwards.. I have no doubt that Ashley's lawyers will squeeze some compensation and Masters/the PL board might end up resigning in the aftermath but we will be a championship club in freefall by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 My opinion is that this is not a priority for KSA anymore (due to COVID and other political factors). This takeover could've been completed in a week through some clean random Saudi individual. And maybe work on transferring ownership to PIF and dick-measuring with Qatar afterwards.. I have no doubt that Ashley's lawyers will squeeze some compensation and Masters/the PL board might end up resigning in the aftermath but we will be a championship club in freefall by then. Agree with this. Compensation for Ashley will be the end result of this farce. He will use the money to buy players to try to get us promoted from the Championship once again and then load that debt onto the club once more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 None of this makes sense to me. Why would Ashley (as reported) ignore other bidders (if the exist) then spend so long with arbitration etc only to stubbornly keep Bruce in position which threatens our Premier League status and with that the takeover he’s seemingly got his heart set on. He’s made some very strange decisions over his time here but this is the most baffling. Lose tonight and Bruce surely has to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamish Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? Don’t think we are almost certain to go down just yet, we’ve had injuries and we’ve had misfortune to have to play Chelsea and Man Utd off the back of three games where we looked improved with Jones. Just get through today and get a few results over the next few weeks and we still stand a chance. Getting Bruce out will help but we still have a chance. However if we finish bottom 3 it will be worse for Premier League than it will be for us. All the gateways to the takeover will be opened by the courts and in determining that the PL deliberately and illegally procrastinated the process, we will either be the 21st club in the PL next season or Ashley will be given so much money that he will sell on the cheap and we will be going straight back up with PIF at the helm. Masters and Hoffman will be gone and there will be more chance of Liverpool and Spurs in the Championship in a couple of seasons than us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? I don’t think there is a chance of a takeover and anyone who still believes must now surely accept it’s at least nowhere near close because Bruce would simply not still be here. 11 months and people still try to sell this as a matter of when not if. March is upon us and Bruce is still here and the gap is 3pts. Even if it was approved no one is going to pay £350m for a club on the cusp of relegation. This takeover is only happening in peoples heads. Now we are speaking some sense and home truths. Look forward to hearing the same thing tomorrow lads, keep it up. Well that’s purgatory for you. Sure the pearly gates will open for you one day. #believe #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 We’re almost certainly going down now, can someone fill me with hope that the takeover isn’t dead when that happens? Don’t think we are almost certain to go down just yet, we’ve had injuries and we’ve had misfortune to have to play Chelsea and Man Utd off the back of three games where we looked improved with Jones. Just get through today and get a few results over the next few weeks and we still stand a chance. Getting Bruce out will help but we still have a chance. However if we finish bottom 3 it will be worse for Premier League than it will be for us. All the gateways to the takeover will be opened by the courts and in determining that the PL deliberately and illegally procrastinated the process, we will either be the 21st club in the PL next season or Ashley will be given so much money that he will sell on the cheap and we will be going straight back up with PIF at the helm. Masters and Hoffman will be gone and there will be more chance of Liverpool and Spurs in the Championship in a couple of seasons than us That went from zero to pants on your head, batshit mental pretty damn fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Everyone's a precognitive in here aren't they? Or does everyone have insider knowledge? Which is it? Because from where I'm standing no one knows wtf is going to happen with this takeover and you're all just doom mongers and fantasists. We know the takeover is in arbitration, we know all parties are still at the table and we know no decisions have been made yet. Who knows why fat boy won't get rid of Bruce or why he equally won't entertain other offers for the club? We've seen it take 2 months for a takeover to go through, we've seen it take 2 years so 11 months down the line is of no significance to where we are or whether it will be done. Everyone's wasting so much energy vehemently defending their position of failed/successful, you're all close minded, only willing to bend the truth to your opinion without subjectiveness. It really is tiresome in here, suggestion: read the information readily available, ask yourself why nothing concrete has happened yet and wait until someone official tells you what's happening before shouting each other down from your ill informed soap boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 None of this makes sense to me. Why would Ashley (as reported) ignore other bidders (if the exist) then spend so long with arbitration etc only to stubbornly keep Bruce in position which threatens our Premier League status and with that the takeover he’s seemingly got his heart set on. He’s made some very strange decisions over his time here but this is the most baffling. Lose tonight and Bruce surely has to go Ashley is not that afraid of relegation imo. He probably views it as a necessary reset for the previous years of conscious mismanagement. For him, it's simply the slight inconvenience of another short-term ~50mil loan to the club, probably secured against the parachute payments. The added bonus in previous years was that the loans were added to the value of the club, strengthening his bargaining position in the event of a takeover. I don't even believe he wants to sell NUFC that desperately. Sports Direct will never have a better marketing deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 It's dead, move along and lock the thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Everyone's a precognitive in here aren't they? Or does everyone have insider knowledge? Which is it? Because from where I'm standing no one knows wtf is going to happen with this takeover and you're all just doom mongers and fantasists. We know the takeover is in arbitration, we know all parties are still at the table and we know no decisions have been made yet. Who knows why fat boy won't get rid of Bruce or why he equally won't entertain other offers for the club? We've seen it take 2 months for a takeover to go through, we've seen it take 2 years so 11 months down the line is of no significance to where we are or whether it will be done. Everyone's wasting so much energy vehemently defending their position of failed/successful, you're all close minded, only willing to bend the truth to your opinion without subjectiveness. It really is tiresome in here, suggestion: read the information readily available, ask yourself why nothing concrete has happened yet and wait until someone official tells you what's happening before shouting each other down from your ill informed soap boxes. Getting on your soapbox about people on their soapbox. This thread has it all. Genius, fella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 It's dead, move along and lock the thread Ashley must be furious with whoever sold him the dream of Joelinton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Another good day in paradise I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Everyone's a precognitive in here aren't they? Or does everyone have insider knowledge? Which is it? Because from where I'm standing no one knows wtf is going to happen with this takeover and you're all just doom mongers and fantasists. We know the takeover is in arbitration, we know all parties are still at the table and we know no decisions have been made yet. Who knows why fat boy won't get rid of Bruce or why he equally won't entertain other offers for the club? We've seen it take 2 months for a takeover to go through, we've seen it take 2 years so 11 months down the line is of no significance to where we are or whether it will be done. Everyone's wasting so much energy vehemently defending their position of failed/successful, you're all close minded, only willing to bend the truth to your opinion without subjectiveness. It really is tiresome in here, suggestion: read the information readily available, ask yourself why nothing concrete has happened yet and wait until someone official tells you what's happening before shouting each other down from your ill informed soap boxes. Getting on your soapbox about people on their soapbox. This thread has it all. Genius, fella Genuinely used to love this forum, full of self righteous, sanctimonious pricks these days, nee wonder most of the old guard left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Everyone's a precognitive in here aren't they? Or does everyone have insider knowledge? Which is it? Because from where I'm standing no one knows wtf is going to happen with this takeover and you're all just doom mongers and fantasists. We know the takeover is in arbitration, we know all parties are still at the table and we know no decisions have been made yet. Who knows why fat boy won't get rid of Bruce or why he equally won't entertain other offers for the club? We've seen it take 2 months for a takeover to go through, we've seen it take 2 years so 11 months down the line is of no significance to where we are or whether it will be done. Everyone's wasting so much energy vehemently defending their position of failed/successful, you're all close minded, only willing to bend the truth to your opinion without subjectiveness. It really is tiresome in here, suggestion: read the information readily available, ask yourself why nothing concrete has happened yet and wait until someone official tells you what's happening before shouting each other down from your ill informed soap boxes. Getting on your soapbox about people on their soapbox. This thread has it all. Genius, fella Genuinely used to love this forum, full of self righteous, sanctimonious pricks these days, nee wonder most of the old guard left. You’re doing it on purpose now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Everyone's a precognitive in here aren't they? Or does everyone have insider knowledge? Which is it? Because from where I'm standing no one knows wtf is going to happen with this takeover and you're all just doom mongers and fantasists. We know the takeover is in arbitration, we know all parties are still at the table and we know no decisions have been made yet. Who knows why fat boy won't get rid of Bruce or why he equally won't entertain other offers for the club? We've seen it take 2 months for a takeover to go through, we've seen it take 2 years so 11 months down the line is of no significance to where we are or whether it will be done. Everyone's wasting so much energy vehemently defending their position of failed/successful, you're all close minded, only willing to bend the truth to your opinion without subjectiveness. It really is tiresome in here, suggestion: read the information readily available, ask yourself why nothing concrete has happened yet and wait until someone official tells you what's happening before shouting each other down from your ill informed soap boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Ashley will panic if we go down - there will be a fire sale, with the likes of Almiron, Wilson and ASM being peddled. Still no guarantee that supporters will be allowed back in come August, so a massive drop in revenue then (lets face it though, how many will want to go back to watch the shitefest continue?) We will have made a loss for the season that it taking place now - like most other clubs. If the bank start getting itchy feet over the overdraft, things might get worse..... Ashley can only load so much debt onto the club itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 None of this makes sense to me. Why would Ashley (as reported) ignore other bidders (if the exist) then spend so long with arbitration etc only to stubbornly keep Bruce in position which threatens our Premier League status and with that the takeover he’s seemingly got his heart set on. He’s made some very strange decisions over his time here but this is the most baffling. Lose tonight and Bruce surely has to go Stop saying Bruce has to go. As long as Ashley is here he will remain here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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