Abacus Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Might be wrong, but it reads to me like the document the PL really wanted to get access to related to the value of the club, and hence how much they would stand to lose if they lost the competition case. If that's right, then despite the extension, the judge basically said that this isn't relevant to the actual rights or wrongs of your defence. To my mind, it's an odd question for the PL to ask if you're confident of your case in the first place. I.e., how much will I have to pay? Of course, I may well be misunderstanding all that, since I had a beer at lunchtime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Yeah, I think people's frustrations at the length of time it is taking and still likely to take are more down to the false hopes that have been spouted about it being some time last year, then early this, then March/April... This is just how it was always going to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Irritated we’re likely going into the new season without a conclusion and given the last few weeks of results it also means it’ll likely be with Bruce. I’m not sure I can be arsed to follow this all anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I was hoping Bruce was getting his cards on Monday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, St1pe said: Irritated we’re likely going into the new season without a conclusion and given the last few weeks of results it also means it’ll likely be with Bruce. I’m not sure I can be arsed to follow this all anymore. There's no 'likely' about it, it absolutely will be Bruce and I think we can assume a contract extension will arrive at some point next season, even if just for a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: There's no 'likely' about it, it absolutely will be Bruce and I think we can assume a contract extension will arrive at some point next season, even if just for a year. I'm dumbfounded that people still think he won't be here next season. This is Sports Direct FC, the only way out is if you resign or you stay in the bottom three for a period of time, unless your name is Chris Hughton (Sam Allardyce doesn't count as Ashley hadn't ripped us apart yet and was a footballing decision). Bruce won't leave without a payoff and Ashley won't give him one, so there it is in a nutshell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Jacobs is an arse like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I don't get why everyone is so negative about this news. We now know that arbitration is well underway and the hearing will be in July. We didn't even know whether it had started before today, or that it was an expedited process (in which a decision is typically made within 6 weeks of the hearing). This means we will likely have a decision either just before or shortly after the start of the season, if the CAT case doesn't force a settlement before then. For the first time we have a pretty definite timescale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Abacus said: Might be wrong, but it reads to me like the document the PL really wanted to get access to related to the value of the club, and hence how much they would stand to lose if they lost the competition case. If that's right, then despite the extension, the judge basically said that this isn't relevant to the actual rights or wrongs of your defence. To my mind, it's an odd question for the PL to ask if you're confident of your case in the first place. I.e., how much will I have to pay? Of course, I may well be misunderstanding all that, since I had a beer at lunchtime. Surely they know the real or otherwise value if one of their member clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Oh it's a cert 100% Bruceball is here if this doesn't get done . It's a shite thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: I don't get why everyone is so negative about this news. We now know that arbitration is well underway and the hearing will be in July. We didn't even know whether it had started before today, or that it was an expedited process (in which a decision is typically made within 6 weeks of the hearing). This means we will likely have a decision either just before or shortly after the start of the season, if the CAT case doesn't force a settlement before then. For the first time we have a pretty definite timescale. I am wondering why the PL haven't settled it already. I thought they would have thrown the towel in once it became clear that it was going to court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, TRon said: I am wondering why the PL haven't settled it already. I thought they would have thrown the towel in once it became clear that it was going to court. It isn't clear that the CAT case is going to court yet, they're challenging the jurisdiction of the case. If they lose that challenge they could conceivably throw in the towel at that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, TRon said: I am wondering why the PL haven't settled it already. I thought they would have thrown the towel in once it became clear that it was going to court. Because the people (those ‘positive threaders’) who have been saying this will happen, are talking shit. The PL are going to delay, delay, delay... and even if it gets to a position where they have to defend themselves, they will. They’re clearly unmoved and all of the noise created by people around this whole saga is nothing but that, noise. Worth noting we opposed the extension. So thats 0/2 for court decisions now for the unbeatable legal team we have. Arbitration in July. Decision probably in August. If that goes against us, years and years of legal arguments before it even gets heard. Fuck all chance of this happening. If the PL were going to fold, they would have by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Because the people (those ‘positive threaders’) who have been saying this will happen, are talking shit. The PL are going to delay, delay, delay... and even if it gets to a position where they have to defend themselves, they will. They’re clearly unmoved and all of the noise created by people around this whole saga is nothing but that, noise. Worth noting we opposed the extension. So thats 0/2 for court decisions now for the unbeatable legal team we have. Arbitration in July. Decision probably in August. If that goes against us, years and years of legal arguments before it even gets heard. Fuck all chance of this happening. If the PL were going to fold, they would have by now. Bookmarked. Edited May 18, 2021 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 How long does "Expedited Arbitration" usually last in the UK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Because the people (those ‘positive threaders’) who have been saying this will happen, are talking shit. The PL are going to delay, delay, delay... and even if it gets to a position where they have to defend themselves, they will. They’re clearly unmoved and all of the noise created by people around this whole saga is nothing but that, noise. Worth noting we opposed the extension. So thats 0/2 for court decisions now for the unbeatable legal team we have. Arbitration in July. Decision probably in August. If that goes against us, years and years of legal arguments before it even gets heard. Fuck all chance of this happening. If the PL were going to fold, they would have by now. It’s not 0-2 in court decisions, they wanted the evidence that the club has against them so they can prepare their defense and the judge fucked them off Edited May 18, 2021 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, nufcnick said: It’s not 0-2 in court decisions, they wanted the evidence that the club has against them and the judge fucked them off It’s not evidence against the PL. It’s MA’s assessment of his ‘loss’. Judge refused because it’s commercially sensitive. Edited May 18, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Bookmarked. Happy for you to print it out and fan my naked body with it if I’m wrong. Truly hope I am. Sad reality is, despite all of your confidence and ‘waiting’, we’re still nowhere near a resolution. Jacobs tweeting that MA is effectively stabbing around in the dark hoping to get a solid piece of evidence through disclosure. Edited May 18, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, maze said: How long does "Expedited Arbitration" usually last in the UK? I’m not sure if the ‘expedited’ bit refers to how quickly it’s being arranged and heard, rather than the actual hearing itself. Hoping someone with much more knowledge can confirm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Sorry if this has been covered, but my understanding is the PL are trying to get the CAT case thrown out on the basis Arbitration covers everything raised in the CAT claim submitted by the club. However, hasn't it previously been stated Arbitration is solely related to the PIF separation issue? If that's the case, i don't understand how the CAT case could be thrown out as it covers so much more than just PIF separation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Happy for you to print it out and fan my naked body with it if I’m wrong. Truly hope I am. Sad reality is, despite all of your confidence and ‘waiting’, we’re still nowhere near a resolution. Jacobs tweeting that MA is effectively stabbing around in the dark hoping to get a solid piece of evidence through disclosure. Yeah and bein jacobs is someone to listen too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, nufcnick said: Yeah and bein jacobs is someone to listen too He’s been more accurate than most. People ignore him because he’s realistic, but he’s been on the money for a long time. I’d rather listen to him then try and interpret a photo of rocks on a beach. Wasn’t NDM tweeting an open path only a week ago? Seems like he’s all over the place with his subliminal messages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Ashley and his legal team will surely have fully expected this request for an extension by the PL. They know very well by now what kind of people they are dealing with and what tactics they are going to use, so today is hardly a win for the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Jacobs tweeting that MA is effectively stabbing around in the dark hoping to get a solid piece of evidence through disclosure. And how exactly would Jacobs know that? Is he privvy to some confidential information that nobody else is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) I have zero hope that this will happen as the PL are clearly desperate for it not to happen and will continue to make sure it dosen’t. I just can’t get my head round why they are so desperate and going to these lengths to block a sale. It’s utterly bizarre. Edited May 18, 2021 by CalmintheChaos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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