Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Wandy]

11 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

He’s been more accurate than most. People ignore him because he’s realistic, but he’s been on the money for a long time.

He's been on the money in terms of the takeover not happening yet. If that's being "on the money" then there are a lot of people who can make the same claim.

[STM]

I can picture the scene now... in 2000 years time when MAs 39th Grandson finally sells the club to the emperor of the planet Zepselon 7, Whitley Mag pops head above a rock and says, "see, I told you it would happen!" Claiming some sort of fucking victory.

It might happen, it might not happen. There is zero chance any fucker on here has anything other than a guess. 

[Fantail Breeze]

5 minutes ago, Wandy said:

And how exactly would Jacobs know that? Is he privvy to some confidential information that nobody else is?

He clearly has PL sources. Just as Kennedy has consortium sources.

If his confidence changed, it’d be worth listening to as it means the PL feel their position has changed.

[Fantail Breeze]

4 minutes ago, Wandy said:

He's been on the money in terms of the takeover not happening yet. If that's being "on the money" then there are a lot of people who can make the same claim.

He was one of the first to report issues with the takeover, when everyone else was telling us to #wait.

He has also been consistent about arbitration not taking place yet, when others where telling us to #wait as we’re nearly there.

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said:

He clearly has PL sources. Just as Kennedy has consortium sources.

If his confidence changed, it’d be worth listening to as it means the PL feel their position has changed.

But you choose to regard Jacobs' sources higher than Kennedy's? Right.

[RS]

Feels like PL are check-mating our every move. 

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said:

He was one of the first to report issues with the takeover, when everyone else was telling us to #wait.

He has also been consistent about arbitration not taking place yet, when others where telling us to #wait as we’re nearly there.

It didnt take a genius to work either of those things out either.

I'm on the fence as to whether this goes through, but Jacobs has no clue. Just like everyone else. He's riding the wave of clicks to promote his online presence.

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, Wandy said:

But you choose to regard Jacobs' sources higher than Kennedy's? Right.

Kennedy is being sold the same dream Caulkin was. With fuck all to show for it.

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, RS said:

Feels like PL are check-mating our every move. 

To be fair you could say it the other way too. It's like a tense and boring cup final, this.

[Scotty66]

Jacobs is just a mouthpiece for BEIN and the PL. 

If the PL want to publicly announce that everything is fine and under control while their stall is on fire, they'll just tell Jacobs. 

He'll tweet what ever he gets told and make out its from his own opinion, over the course of 20 tweets containing nothing really ground breaking... 

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Kennedy is being sold the same dream Caulkin was. With fuck all to show for it.

All in your opinion. Clearly, you are on the negative side of the fence. Fair enough, but there is fuck all to show that the PL will win. Nobody, absolutely nobody, knows what is going on behind closed doors.

[Robster]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

I am wondering why the PL haven't settled it already. I thought they would have thrown the towel in once it became clear that it was going to court. 

Yep. Allow it or reject it.
If they are so confident, tell the Consortium that they've failed the ODT test.

[Robster]

43 minutes ago, maze said:

How long does "Expedited Arbitration" usually last in the UK?

Normally? Not sure.

In this case? 15 years.

[Fantail Breeze]

10 minutes ago, Wandy said:

All in your opinion. Clearly, you are on the negative side of the fence. Fair enough, but there is fuck all to show that the PL will win. Nobody, absolutely nobody, knows what is going on behind closed doors.

I don’t consider myself to be negative at all. I want the takeover to go through. My opinion is based on the news in front of me & the previous 16 months. 

Weird to have a pop at me about Jacob’s knowing fuck all when people are adamant  NDM is delivering subliminal messages about the ‘highly sensitive’ court case.

[GWN]

7 minutes ago, Robster said:

Yep. Allow it or reject it.
If they are so confident, tell the Consortium that they've failed the ODT test.

This is what I don’t get from the PL , it’s a pisstake 

[Dr Jinx]

24 minutes ago, RS said:

Feels like PL are check-mating our every move. 

It’s more a timing issue. The club brought the wrong case forward first. There’s a more detailed breakdown of it in the other thread.. pissing on chips again I am.

A win for the PL today.

[Whitley mag]

46 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Happy for you to print it out and fan my naked body with it if I’m wrong. Truly hope I am.

Sad reality is, despite all of your confidence and ‘waiting’, we’re still nowhere near a resolution.

Jacobs tweeting that MA is effectively stabbing around in the dark hoping to get a solid piece of evidence through disclosure.

Ben Jacobs is on a par with Matt Slater fed by his PL source. 

The fact is one of the top 5 anti competition QC’s in the country believes we’d have won this case before club added any evidence.

If the PL are so confident why did they not follow their own rule book and reject it. There that confident that they delay at every opportunity.

Nothing has changed today apart from the PL have been given a couple of extra weeks. They can’t delay forever and if arbitration goes ahead in July, we could be under new ownership very soon.

 

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, Whitley mag said:

Ben Jacobs is on a par with Matt Slater fed by his PL source. 

The fact is one of the top 5 anti competition QC’s in the country believes we’d have won this case before club added any evidence.

If the PL are so confident why did they not follow their own rule book and reject it. There that confident that they delay at every opportunity.

Nothing has changed today apart from the PL have been given a couple of extra weeks. They can’t delay forever and if arbitration goes ahead in July, we could be under new ownership very soon.

 

This point gets trotted about a lot, but doesn’t actually make sense.

The PL’s whole argument is they can’t make a decision to approve or reject because the consortium are refusing to comply. If the PL rejected it, that’d bring down a huge piece of their point.

As for your final paragraph, there’s a really good post in your positive thread about why this ‘few weeks’ delay is actually quite important.

[Dokko]

I’m beginning to think they should complete the sale and see what the PL do next. I’d prefer being thrown out the league than another season of this limbo shit. Think it’s worth a gamble. 

[Wilson]

Weren't people on here saying they MUST reply by Friday (or something) and couldn't delay it? 

The fact is nee-one knows man.  

[Joey Linton]

Another (admittedly minor) setback being presented as a positive by the same old people. 

 

We go again eh? 

[Scoot]

3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

This point gets trotted about a lot, but doesn’t actually make sense.

The PL’s whole argument is they can’t make a decision to approve or reject because the consortium are refusing to comply. If the PL rejected it, that’d bring down a huge piece of their point.

As for your final paragraph, there’s a really good post in your positive thread about why this ‘few weeks’ delay is actually quite important.

If the consortium were "refusing to comply" that would give the PL the right to reject them. But the didn't. Corrupt cunts.

[Fantail Breeze]

2 minutes ago, Scoot said:

If the consortium were "refusing to comply" that would give the PL the right to reject them. But the didn't. Corrupt cunts.

Because the PL will probably say, they want to be balanced and give the consortium every opportunity to buy their club and remain open to them doing so - subject to all shadow directors going through the process.

Sounds a bit like they’re not being anti-competitive then...

 

 

Edited May 18, 2021 by Fantail Breeze

[DL7777]

10 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Ben Jacobs is on a par with Matt Slater fed by his PL source. 

The fact is one of the top 5 anti competition QC’s in the country believes we’d have won this case before club added any evidence.

If the PL are so confident why did they not follow their own rule book and reject it. There that confident that they delay at every opportunity.

Nothing has changed today apart from the PL have been given a couple of extra weeks. They can’t delay forever and if arbitration goes ahead in July, we could be under new ownership very soon.

 

Matt Slater has twisted the ‘facts’ to suit his own narrative throughout this process .. His favourite one is ‘the premier league contacted seven different Saudi law firms re instigating legal action against BeIN’ .. which quickly morphed into, ‘The premier league tried to take legal action against BeIN on seven occasions’ .. this he has then repeated for the last 18 months.

[Whitley mag]

4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

This point gets trotted about a lot, but doesn’t actually make sense.

The PL’s whole argument is they can’t make a decision to approve or reject because the consortium are refusing to comply. If the PL rejected it, that’d bring down a huge piece of their point.

As for your final paragraph, there’s a really good post in your positive thread about why this ‘few weeks’ delay is actually quite important.

The PL are keen for people to believe that they couldn’t make a decision, but the rule book is quite clear on this matter. They should have rejected it. The reason they didn’t reject it is because we would have been in court by now, and they weren’t confident enough in their position.

I’ve read the post in question and we’ll see how it plays out in next few weeks. It’s all legal games at this point but I see nothing to be concerned with in relation to today’s developments.