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UEFA Euro 2020 Final: England 1 - 1 Italy (Italy win 3-2 on pens)


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Seems like they all just got carried away. Can't say there was any trouble at all when I was there for Germany game. 4 Irish lads wearing Germany tops too. Only one fella had an issue and everyone else had the craic. :lol:

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1 hour ago, joeyt said:

 

 

 

Such a thoroughly depressing read. Some of those videos were straight up disturbing; I'd only seen snippets of them beforehand. The absolute worst of our country. Heads should role for the shambolic (lack of any meaningful) perimeter organisation as well. 

 

I hope that old white bloke in the shit checkered shirt got his comeuppance somewhere along the evening though. What a cowardly prick, punching that young lad as he tried to flee. 

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Dunno why anyone would be surprised that some players wouldn't particularly want to wear, touch, look at, a runners up medal minutes after they've lost the biggest game of their careers.

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It feels to me that within English football culture, we are always dancing around the edges of what happened at Wembley.  I don't know if something needs to fundamentally change or not (or could even be changed), as no doubt lots of people don't see see any issue with getting absolutely battered before a game and simply regard it as part of the fan experience.  And I totally accept that a football ground shouldn't need to be a sanitised safe space and the edge that comes with fervent support is a massive part of football.

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27 minutes ago, Hughesy said:

It feels to me that within English football culture, we are always dancing around the edges of what happened at Wembley.  I don't know if something needs to fundamentally change or not (or could even be changed), as no doubt lots of people don't see see any issue with getting absolutely battered before a game and simply regard it as part of the fan experience.  And I totally accept that a football ground shouldn't need to be a sanitised safe space and the edge that comes with fervent support is a massive part of football.

 

I've not been to an away game since 2014 but from what I've read on here and heard from other people, there's been a massively increased use of drugs (particularly cocaine) being used openly in the last few years and this has contributed to a much more unpleasant atmosphere before games.

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5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Cocaine use is not something that is exclusive to football culture. I know plenty of people where it's a regular and normal part of any night out or event they attend. 

 

It's routine in the financial services across the country.

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It's just a change in youth culture/attitudes which is no different to other changes in times gone by IMO. Football culture has always had a crossover with music and drugs culture - all driven by the yoot.

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