Dokko Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Kieran Maguire, football finance guy https://www.footballinsider247.com/newcastle-united-can-earn-30m-a-match-as-plan-revealed-maguire/ Maguire claims that one solution is to organise money-spinning pre-season tours of Saudi Arabia “If one route is closed, you try and explore alternative avenues,” he told Football Insider correspondent Adam Williams. “If you have to stop, say, a naming rights deal, what do you do next? You could go on a pre-season tour of Saudi Arabia and charge £30m per match. “For every one rule, there is always another loophole. That is one of the first things you learn when you study law to any extent. “I would be looking at alternative ways of funding the club if you can’t do it through the traditional routes, sponsorship and commercial arrangements.” Wouldn't be too surprised if he becomes part of our consultancy crew. He's always been positive towards the consortium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 30m a match, preseason tour of Saudi. Hahah! love it. Hahaha! OK, PL - we just made 120m in our 4 match tour, paid up front. Go fuck yourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Also, fine - we will get competitive deals in every area then - if 30-50m is the shirt sponsor number? done. if 15m for training ground? done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Kanji said: 30m a match, preseason tour of Saudi. Hahah! love it. Hahaha! OK, PL - we just made 120m in our 4 match tour, paid up front. Go fuck yourselves. Don't even have to play the first team. Just be blatantly corrupt about it and play the U18s behind closed doors against a local side. Fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 And the other 19 will be left with limited sponsorship deals going forwards thanks to their very own ruling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10121965/Newcastle-Man-City-fear-rivals-ganging-ownerships.html Newcastle and Manchester City are unhappy at being targeted by the rest of the Premier League after the chief executive of another club this week called for curbs on investment from companies specifically from the Gulf. Sportsmail has learned that the explicit geopolitical reference to funding from the region came in an email sent to the other clubs before the emergency Premier League meeting on Monday, at which they voted to introduce a one-month ban on sponsorship involving related parties. Newcastle voted against the proposal and City abstained, due to doubts over whether the ban is legally enforceable and the speed with which the restriction was being introduced. The tone of some of the other correspondence between the clubs this week also raised eyebrows, particularly the tendency to lump Newcastle and City together due to their ownership groups — Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi respectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 hours ago, nbthree3 said: Kieran Maguire, football finance guy https://www.footballinsider247.com/newcastle-united-can-earn-30m-a-match-as-plan-revealed-maguire/ Maguire claims that one solution is to organise money-spinning pre-season tours of Saudi Arabia “If one route is closed, you try and explore alternative avenues,” he told Football Insider correspondent Adam Williams. “If you have to stop, say, a naming rights deal, what do you do next? You could go on a pre-season tour of Saudi Arabia and charge £30m per match. “For every one rule, there is always another loophole. That is one of the first things you learn when you study law to any extent. “I would be looking at alternative ways of funding the club if you can’t do it through the traditional routes, sponsorship and commercial arrangements.” Be a lot easier not to say infinitely fairer to just allow the shirt sponsor, but noooo, the hateful 18 had to be c**ts about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10121965/Newcastle-Man-City-fear-rivals-ganging-ownerships.html Newcastle and Manchester City are unhappy at being targeted by the rest of the Premier League after the chief executive of another club this week called for curbs on investment from companies specifically from the Gulf. Sportsmail has learned that the explicit geopolitical reference to funding from the region came in an email sent to the other clubs before the emergency Premier League meeting on Monday, at which they voted to introduce a one-month ban on sponsorship involving related parties. Newcastle voted against the proposal and City abstained, due to doubts over whether the ban is legally enforceable and the speed with which the restriction was being introduced. The tone of some of the other correspondence between the clubs this week also raised eyebrows, particularly the tendency to lump Newcastle and City together due to their ownership groups — Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi respectively. Absolutely ludicrous that The clubs in their fear have completely lost the plot. I'm no legal expert but I don't see how any of this holds up First you have the absurd restriction of sponsorship and then you get a bit of casual racism thrown into the mix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Really hope that’s true like. No doubt it was the Brexit loving Parish as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Really hope that’s true like. No doubt it was the Brexit loving Parish as well. By all accounts it was according to the Athletic earlier in week. The fox is in the hen house now, it’s to late lads. Edited October 22, 2021 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 All this shit just proves how hard certain clubs were pushing to stop our takeover and make it drag on so long. Bunch of corrupt bastards the lot of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Whitley mag said: By all accounts it was according to the Athletic earlier in week. The fox is in the hen house now, it’s to late lads. I can just imagine how more determined all of this is making the Saudis to succeed with us. We are under all types of attack from all sorts of areas. These people will undoubtedly live to regret their very stupid actions. (Can't wait !!! ) Edited October 23, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) So do the likes of West Ham and Villa think this will help them bridge the gap between them and City? I mean footballs fucked, this is all completely vile and I wish none of it had ever happened and we were back to the 90s, but since the rift in money between the clubs has gotten to this point their only hope of ever competing is to go down the same route we have. We'll be fine, there's no way they will be able to legally put in place enough roadblocks at this point, but they might be in place if ISIS or some other conglomerate ever purchase them, in which case they're really just fucking themselves. Edited October 23, 2021 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: So do the likes of West Ham and Villa think this will help them bridge the gap between them and City? I mean footballs fucked, this is all completely vile and I wish none of it had ever happened and we were back to the 90s, but since the rift in money between the clubs has gotten to this point their only hope of ever competing is to go down the same route we have. We'll be fine, there's no way they will be able to legally put in place enough roadblocks at this point, but they might be in place if ISIS or some other conglomerate ever purchase them, in which case they're really just fucking themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Kanji said: 30m a match, preseason tour of Saudi. Hahah! love it. Hahaha! OK, PL - we just made 120m in our 4 match tour, paid up front. Go fuck yourselves. Not even something they could provide rules against really. Unless they try to control friendly games now aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 btw i seem to recall that it was said if we were ever taken over we'd be in a position to spend big even taking FFP into account because of how Ashley ran the club over the last few years, has it been speculated yet how much that might run to without any changes to sponsorship and such? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: btw i seem to recall that it was said if we were ever taken over we'd be in a position to spend big even taking FFP into account because of how Ashley ran the club over the last few years, has it been speculated yet how much that might run to without any changes to sponsorship and such? Was like £170m or something that was touted during the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: Was like £170m or something that was touted during the takeover. Yeah that rang a bell with me, I thought around the £200m mark for some reason. I mean you'd think that'd probably do for the next couple of windows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 You would imagine like In either case we really should be trying to save as much as possible going forwards and prudent as we can now imo. I don't want an early City situation spunking money on mercenaries like Robinho only for them to be a complete non fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: You would imagine like In either case we really should be trying to save as much as possible going forwards and prudent as we can now imo. I don't want an early City situation spunking money on mercenaries like Robinho only for them to be a complete non fit. Nah course, would hope we go for young(er) players with something to prove that you get something out of long term but I suppose we have more immediate needs. I'd be more than satisfied with a couple of a good loans in Jan and a couple of ~£20m players along the lines of Lingaard if you could pull that off. Get us stabilised then have a proper look at it. Save the money for Harlaand in the summer amirite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Yeah that rang a bell with me, I thought around the £200m mark for some reason. I mean you'd think that'd probably do for the next couple of windows Simon Jordan said if we spread the transfer fee over the length of a players contract it could be a lot more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, nbthree3 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10121965/Newcastle-Man-City-fear-rivals-ganging-ownerships.html Newcastle and Manchester City are unhappy at being targeted by the rest of the Premier League after the chief executive of another club this week called for curbs on investment from companies specifically from the Gulf. Sportsmail has learned that the explicit geopolitical reference to funding from the region came in an email sent to the other clubs before the emergency Premier League meeting on Monday, at which they voted to introduce a one-month ban on sponsorship involving related parties. Newcastle voted against the proposal and City abstained, due to doubts over whether the ban is legally enforceable and the speed with which the restriction was being introduced. The tone of some of the other correspondence between the clubs this week also raised eyebrows, particularly the tendency to lump Newcastle and City together due to their ownership groups — Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi respectively. They won’t be wanting that juicy BEin Sports money anymore then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Yeah that rang a bell with me, I thought around the £200m mark for some reason. I mean you'd think that'd probably do for the next couple of windows Especially as it's profit and not cash. Any transfers etc will be depreciated over 5 or so seasons so that's a huge amount in reality. Assuming new sponsorship in place by year 3 to offset then we're golden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ben said: Simon Jordan said if we spread the transfer fee over the length of a players contract it could be a lot more That’s how it works anyway, if you spend £100m on 5 players on 5 year contracts it only counts as £20m per season toward the FFP cap, the trouble comes if you keep spending £150m+ Year on year as by the time you get to year 3 your hitting the FFP ceiling, this is why it’s important to spend well. (this is what has happened to Everton this season, lots to spend but would break FFP rules if they did because of poor spending in year 1 and 2 ) the way round it is to give longer contracts 6-7 years because that then spreads the FFP rule over a longer term ie £20m toward FFP per season would become just over £14m per season Edited October 23, 2021 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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