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1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said:

I think they planned to get this on the shirt but couldn’t get out of funn88.

Yeah that was the summer/ pre-season rumour wasn’t it? The away kit was the Saudia colours and that we had a deal lined up but then Fun88 wouldn’t play ball and let us out the contract early 

[Whitley mag]

It’s fairly common knowledge that they’re in regular dialogue with the council isn’t it ? It would be more of a surprise if the topic of the stadium hadn’t come up in discussions, I’ll still be amazed if it’s financially viable to expand St Jame’s for the gains it would bring in capacity.

 

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Whitley mag

[duo]

6 hours ago, Rich said:

Saudia St. James' Park here we come.

[Pixelphish]

3 hours ago, Rich said:

I’m colour blind as fuck, but are those Saudia uniforms the same colour as our away kit? 

Good shout. 

[Guest dazzanufc1892]

4 hours ago, Rich said:

I’m colour blind as fuck, but are those Saudia uniforms the same colour as our away kit? 

Yeah it was posted a few months back that the tail fins on the planes are the same colour as the kit

 

 

[jarrovianmag]

Newcastle - euro hub for Saudia - ££££ 

[Andybiotics]

For those discussing the Fun88 deal ending early, didn't we switch to Virgin mid-season during the Pardew era? 

[Ben]

8 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

It’s fairly common knowledge that they’re in regular dialogue with the council isn’t it ? It would be more of a surprise if the topic of the stadium hadn’t come up in discussions, I’ll still be amazed if it’s financially viable to expand St Jame’s for the gains it would bring in capacity.

 

 

 

What would it actually cost to expand it to 60000 ?

[Guest reefatoon]

4 minutes ago, Andybiotics said:

For those discussing the Fun88 deal ending early, didn't we switch to Virgin mid-season during the Pardew era? 

Only because Northern Rock collapsed and went bust.

[Izakaya]

5 minutes ago, Ben said:

What would it actually cost to expand it to 60000 ?

 

Wonder if there's a safe standing review and if that has any details on gallowgate capacity?

[Stifler]

6 hours ago, jarrovianmag said:

Newcastle - euro hub for Saudia - ££££ 

See this I don’t think will happen. Saudi Arabia is not a tourist destination as much as Dubai is. We also don’t have a large enough Muslim population for it be a hub where Muslims from the Middle East go to Saudia Arabia to visit friends, relatives, and even for pilgrimage. Newcastle doesn’t have enough connections across Europe to even encourage people to go via Newcastle, heck we don’t even have enough connections across the U.K.

 

The airport already has a flight to Dubai and it is actually the freight from that flight that makes it financially viable. I’m not sure we’d get enough freight from Saudi Arabia to make it viable. It just seems to be a massively long stretch to think that they would be flying to/from Newcastle.

[James]

NTL, Northern Rock, Wonga we seem to be associated with sponsors who go bust.

 

Didnt Newcastle Brown Ale have difficulties too?

[TheBrownBottle]

27 minutes ago, Ben said:

What would it actually cost to expand it to 60000 ?

Even if it is structurally possible to extend the Gallowgate, the cost would be prohibitive in terms of ever making the money back; i.e. the increased capacity wouldn’t generate anything like the sales to cover the cost.  Of course, stadiums don’t affect FFP, so PIF may do it as a write-off.  But you’re comfortably looking at stupid money - and by stupid I mean a decent nine-figure sim - as the construction method would need to involve building over Strawberry Place and there would be a need to have extensive piling in the foundations - given the location of the Metro station, that could mean it is actually impossible to do.  Personally, I reckon any feasibility study will come back saying that it is in all practical senses a non-starter. 

 

21 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

 

Wonder if there's a safe standing review and if that has any details on gallowgate capacity?

Safe standing would be great, but it won’t increase the ground’s capacity in any real sense. 

[christ]

As Stiffy says, the chances of this being anything to do with a new route out of the airport are basically nil. There’s already a service to the Middle East, into a much more well connected regional hub airport, with a much better established international airline.

There isn’t the demand from Newcastle for another service into that part of the world, so all it’d do is cannibalise the Emirates passenger base and put what is a massive positive - both economically and from a prestige POV - at serious risk.

[nufcnick]

30 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Even if it is structurally possible to extend the Gallowgate, the cost would be prohibitive in terms of ever making the money back; i.e. the increased capacity wouldn’t generate anything like the sales to cover the cost.  Of course, stadiums don’t affect FFP, so PIF may do it as a write-off.  But you’re comfortably looking at stupid money - and by stupid I mean a decent nine-figure sim - as the construction method would need to involve building over Strawberry Place and there would be a need to have extensive piling in the foundations - given the location of the Metro station, that could mean it is actually impossible to do.  Personally, I reckon any feasibility study will come back saying that it is in all practical senses a non-starter. 

 

Safe standing would be great, but it won’t increase the ground’s capacity in any real sense. 

That’s actually incorrect, from next season stadium expansion and new stadiums do affect some FFP 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by nufcnick

[The Prophet]

It's most likely sponsorship  related. 

[Izakaya]

We aren't getting a Newcastle - Jeddah route. It's simply not feasible. We will however have Saudia as NUFC's 'preferred airline partner' and use them for all our euro games or something like that. 

[TheBrownBottle]

9 minutes ago, nufcnick said:

That’s actually incorrect, from next season stadium expansion and new stadiums do affect some FFP 

 

 

 

Gotcha, hadn’t seen that.

 

That makes it even more difficult if that’s the case. 

[nufcnick]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Gotcha, hadn’t seen that.

 

That makes it even more difficult if that’s the case. 

I have just been looking for the article I read and can’t seem to find it, so I retract my original comment 

[Dr.Spaceman]

That's pathetic if so. Why would you want to limit things like infrastructure upgrades? This is the part of any club that can transcend the sport and especially in our case you're not just limiting the club's capacity for expansion but you're limiting the growth of the city / area.

[madras]

Just now, Dr.Spaceman said:

That's pathetic if so. Why would you want to limit things like infrastructure upgrades? This is the part of any club that can transcend the sport and especially in our case you're not just limiting the club's capacity for expansion but you're limiting the growth of the city / area.

Would it not he very difficult to do ? We've built a new stadium for 300mill, so how long do we spread that over, 100yrs ? 200 ?

[TheBrownBottle]

Just thinking about this, extending the Gallowgate is likely the wrong idea in terms of constructability.  A potential solution might actually be to demolish the current stand and rebuild it on a much steeper incline, and possibly include a structural tier above.  Spurs’ huge south stand is on a very steep incline - something like 35deg.  It might be possible to significantly increase the Gallowgate capacity that way, and of course enclose it with the west stand. 

[Stifler]

12 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Just thinking about this, extending the Gallowgate is likely the wrong idea in terms of constructability.  A potential solution might actually be to demolish the current stand and rebuild it on a much steeper incline, and possibly include a structural tier above.  Spurs’ huge south stand is on a very steep incline - something like 35deg.  It might be possible to significantly increase the Gallowgate capacity that way, and of course enclose it with the west stand. 

Spurs new stand’s bottom row is the centre circle used to be on their old stand, and the back row is further back than the back row of their old stand.

[Miggys First Goal]

Stifler knows all about this shit. Forum expert. 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Stifler said:

Spurs new stand’s bottom row is the centre circle used to be on their old stand, and the back row is further back than the back row of their old stand.

Partially because the bottom tier isn’t on a sharp incline.  Was just thinking out loud tbh - the likelihood is that the ground cannot be extended in any meaningful sense.