The College Dropout Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 9 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: I think we've seen at most clubs, whilst the manager firing/hiring should be under the authority of the Sporting Director, it often ends up being a call made above their head. For better or worse. If the Saudi's want to sack Howe, he will be gone. Yep. There isn't super delegation either. Some minority shareholders at other clubs are decision makers because majority owners have empowered them. Previously Daniel Levy, Steve Parish at Palace etc. But Hopkinson isn't the supreme shot caller at our club. Zero chance. He's even more of a Capo than an Underboss (too much Sopranos recently). It's just our Godfather doesn't care all that much about us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 21 minutes ago, TRon said: Howe is on record saying he has known Wilson for several years. That doesn't mean Wilson isn't good at his job, but it does make me wonder if Wilson would be ruthless if he needed to be when it comes to Howe. As for his credentials, he seems to have got a bad rep at Rangers, and turned it round somewhat at Forest. Other than that I'm not sure what his pedigree is. Have you got a link to that? This was discussed a while ago and I couldn’t find that detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 16 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Have you got a link to that? This was discussed a while ago and I couldn’t find that detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Ah cool, appreciate that. Doesn't sound like an appointment because Howe loves the guy and wants ultimate control though, which is normally what people are trying to imply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Before that we were linked heavily with Dougie Freedman who did well for CP, Olise, Eze, Wharton etc. Wilson has done very well for Forest, Anderson, Murillo, CHO, Milenkovic etc. There's only a handful of really big names of sporting directors and we've had two of the biggest ones. Wilson is a bit more low profile but the big names didn't really work out in any case. He's had summers where's he recruited 10-12 players and cleared out the decks so absolutely has the right experience for what we need this summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 33 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Before that we were linked heavily with Dougie Freedman who did well for CP, Olise, Eze, Wharton etc. Wilson has done very well for Forest, Anderson, Murillo, CHO, Milenkovic etc. There's only a handful of really big names of sporting directors and we've had two of the biggest ones. Wilson is a bit more low profile but the big names didn't really work out in any case. He's had summers where's he recruited 10-12 players and cleared out the decks so absolutely has the right experience for what we need this summer Agreed. Plus he’s got pedigree of offloading players for big money. I mean they made £75m from us by selling Elanga and the goalkeeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 26 minutes ago, andyc35i said: Agreed. Plus he’s got pedigree of offloading players for big money. I mean they made £75m from us by selling Elanga and the goalkeeper Not sure that's much of an edorsement mind. If anything it makes you want a bit of separation from him and the people employed at the club who he mugged off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthusiast Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Reckon every time Andy Howe goes for a piss "Gripper" Wilson follows him into the bogs to tax his dinner money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 5 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Yep. There isn't super delegation either. Some minority shareholders at other clubs are decision makers because majority owners have empowered them. Previously Daniel Levy, Steve Parish at Palace etc. But Hopkinson isn't the supreme shot caller at our club. Zero chance. He's even more of a Capo than an Underboss (too much Sopranos recently). It's just our Godfather doesn't care all that much about us. Just to reinforce this. Friend of a friend applied for and got shortlisted for the NUFC Chief People Officer job. She was interviewed by club officials at first stage and then went through to the second stage which was with Hopkinson himself. She’s got huge pedigree and has done the same role for much bigger organisations. Over dinner, he told her that she was his number 1 pick for the role and, at the final stage, which was an interview with PIF, he’d be recommending her for the role. She didn’t get it. PIF went with the bloke from Virgin Media. He may be very credible, don’t know, but it goes to highlight how much more ‘hands on’ PIF are than many think and also how junior Hopkinson is in real terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Yep. There isn't super delegation either. Some minority shareholders at other clubs are decision makers because majority owners have empowered them. Previously Daniel Levy, Steve Parish at Palace etc. But Hopkinson isn't the supreme shot caller at our club. Zero chance. He's even more of a Capo than an Underboss (too much Sopranos recently). It's just our Godfather doesn't care all that much about us. You can’t have too much Sopranos. Cannot believe I am only just watching this! Not sure what was going on in my life when it first came out. Trying to drip feed it when I'm away and on nights. Nearly finished season 3. Edited April 28 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 7 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: You cant have too much Sopranos. Cannot believe I am only just watching this! Not sure what was going on in my life when it first came out. Trying to drip feed it when I'm away and on nights. Nearly finished season 3. Top tv show. 24 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Just to reinforce this. Friend of a friend applied for and got shortlisted for the NUFC Chief People Officer job. She was interviewed by club officials at first stage and then went through to the second stage which was with Hopkinson himself. She’s got huge pedigree and has done the same role for much bigger organisations. Over dinner, he told her that she was his number 1 pick for the role and, at the final stage, which was an interview with PIF, he’d be recommending her for the role. She didn’t get it. PIF went with the bloke from Virgin Media. He may be very credible, don’t know, but it goes to highlight how much more ‘hands on’ PIF are than many think and also how junior Hopkinson is in real terms. Great insight. Thanks for sharing. no offence to him but I knew he didn’t have real power when he spouted that 2030 shit. That’s the PIF line and strategy - not his. It’s the same line the old CEO had. Anyone with power would’ve said ‘that’s not happening’ and come up with something new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 28 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: You cant have too much Sopranos. Cannot believe I am only just watching this! Not sure what was going on in my life when it first came out. Trying to drip feed it when I'm away and on nights. Nearly finished season 3. Watched it 3 times now, always feel ready for another run about a year later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 45 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Just to reinforce this. Friend of a friend applied for and got shortlisted for the NUFC Chief People Officer job. She was interviewed by club officials at first stage and then went through to the second stage which was with Hopkinson himself. She’s got huge pedigree and has done the same role for much bigger organisations. Over dinner, he told her that she was his number 1 pick for the role and, at the final stage, which was an interview with PIF, he’d be recommending her for the role. She didn’t get it. PIF went with the bloke from Virgin Media. He may be very credible, don’t know, but it goes to highlight how much more ‘hands on’ PIF are than many think and also how junior Hopkinson is in real terms. If that's true, would be good to know who is actually making the big calls for PIF. I still find it hard to believe they capitulated on letting Isak go if it's true. I always believed it was that sackless nepobaby Jamie Rueben who went cap in hand begging to Isak's house begging him to stay. Then getting chased out by Isak's pack of dobermanns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 When is the Yasir summit meant to be happening? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 3 minutes ago, duo said: When is the Yasir summit meant to be happening? Thursday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 When it comes to this I just can’t get that image of Saddam Hussain out of my head, when he reads out the name of the traitors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) wrong thread Edited April 28 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I sort of wish this wasn't happening this week; I'd rather Howe was fully focussing on the Brighton game rather than at a summit. They could surely concentrate on infrastructure and other stuff with Hopkinson and Wilson and leave the team inquest until the end of the season. But then, I do get that they need a clear playing and recruitment / selling plan going into the summer, and if there's any disagreement going into that, maybe that's best flushing out now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 25 of the fuckers here for a jolly Won't be anywhere to be seen in the summer when we are waiting if we can pay someone an extra 50 quid a week or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Well they either mean business or as with my work its an excuse to get away from home and have a piss up If we see them hanging around town later tonight we know it's the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 21 hours ago, Minhosa said: Just to reinforce this. Friend of a friend applied for and got shortlisted for the NUFC Chief People Officer job. She was interviewed by club officials at first stage and then went through to the second stage which was with Hopkinson himself. She’s got huge pedigree and has done the same role for much bigger organisations. Over dinner, he told her that she was his number 1 pick for the role and, at the final stage, which was an interview with PIF, he’d be recommending her for the role. She didn’t get it. PIF went with the bloke from Virgin Media. He may be very credible, don’t know, but it goes to highlight how much more ‘hands on’ PIF are than many think and also how junior Hopkinson is in real terms. How do you know it was PIF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, Abacus said: I sort of wish this wasn't happening this week; I'd rather Howe was fully focussing on the Brighton game rather than at a summit. They could surely concentrate on infrastructure and other stuff with Hopkinson and Wilson and leave the team inquest until the end of the season. But then, I do get that they need a clear playing and recruitment / selling plan going into the summer, and if there's any disagreement going into that, maybe that's best flushing out now. Yeah, it's not ideal for preparation but it's essential things are put in place before the window opens. And if they're sacking Howe it needs to be known now. Edited April 29 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We really need them to stop talking and start doing at this point mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: We really need them to stop talking and start doing at this point mind. 🎶A little less conversation a little more action🎶 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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