TheBrownBottle Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, madras said: No they can't. Parliament can within reason but can still flounder in the supreme Court (for now.....the Tories are actively looking to change that) The Supreme Court are there to interpret and of course create case law - but they can’t block legislation. The elective dictatorship will always be able to get what it wants Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 51 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: The govt can enact any legislation they like, ultimately. Including amendments or new legislation providing opt-outs and protections for some sectors - including sports. Post-Brexit, they are in a position to do this without external considerations. There hasn't been any suggestion of them doing it in relation to FFP though, only in relation to preventing English clubs playing in the ESL. Obviously they could, but there would be unlikely to be the same level of public political pressure to legislate to keep FFP in place if it were to be successfully challenged. Also, if there were a successful challenge here it would need to be repeated in the european court to completely free top clubs from FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: The Supreme Court are there to interpret and of course create case law - but they can’t block legislation. The elective dictatorship will always be able to get what it wants Even then its Parliament and not Government as we saw during Brexit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Jackie Broon said: There hasn't been any suggestion of them doing it in relation to FFP though, only in relation to preventing English clubs playing in the ESL. Obviously they could, but there would be unlikely to be the same level of public political pressure to legislate to keep FFP in place if it were to be successfully challenged. Also, if there were a successful challenge here it would need to be repeated in the european court to completely free top clubs from FFP. You’re right - and yes, UEFA has its own FFP rules independent of the PL. Just now, madras said: Even then its Parliament and not Government as we saw during Brexit. Are you referring to the proroguing of Parliament? I think it’s difficult to truly distinguish govt from Parliament - I know our executive hold ministerial portfolios, but ultimately the govt comes from the govt benches. Another system in need of reform! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 13 hours ago, Jonas said: Think its ideal for the less ambitious. Can just blame FFP for floundering and stymie fan unrest at their ownership, nice easy job for life really. I used to know this horrible fat c*nt that would love that. ? Yeah, but imposing spending restrictions is extremely shortsighted if you ever intend to sell the club. It makes a purchase pointless for anyone like Roman A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 12 hours ago, duo said: Give it time imo - it is getting ridiculous. It will get to the point where enough is enough. It's blatantly a cartel so I think it would fall like a deck of cards if legally challenged. I tell you what all eyes on Man City - every man and his dog knows they cheated to bypass FFP. If they get away with it 'again' - FFP is finished. Speculative theory: Man City and the PL are in a deadlock, because Man City threaten to take the PL to court over FFP being anti-competitive if they are stripped of their titles and/or demoted a few divisions. Both parties know that Man City would have a very good chance of winning such a case, which would go against the interest of the PL and its big six cartel, and thus a compromise will be reached where parties will just kick the can down the road indefinitely as long as Man City play ball going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Unbelievable said: Speculative theory: Man City and the PL are in a deadlock, because Man City threaten to take the PL to court over FFP being anti-competitive if they are stripped of their titles and/or demoted a few divisions. Both parties know that Man City would have a very good chance of winning such a case, which would go against the interest of the PL and its big six cartel, and thus a compromise will be reached where parties will just kick the can down the road indefinitely as long as Man City play ball going forward. We may as well flaunt FFP and do the same. If you can't beat them.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 13 minutes ago, duo said: We may as well flaunt FFP and do the same. If you can't beat them.... It doesn’t quite work that way though, although we have more sway than say, Everton, we’re not in a position to just go ahead and do that. No competitor (ie the other PL clubs) are sleeping on us like they were with Man City. We've announced a couple of big deals and am sure there’s more to follow, it just needs to be built up gradually to convince those clubs we’re doing it in the right manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Our hands are tied even with new commercial sponsors as it has to be fair market value whatever that means. Meanwhile City who exaggerated their income to spend carry on reaping the rewards of their deceit winning title after title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I don’t think we will ever be big enough to fully compete. no wonder we were bought on the cheap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Naming rights of the training ground and the stadium need to happen whether we like the latter or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 29 minutes ago, Infatuation Junkie said: I don’t think we will ever be big enough to fully compete. no wonder we were bought on the cheap Look how much we’ve moved forward in the space of two years. It’s a world apart from where things were with Ashley and it will only gain more momentum. It was always going to be toughest immediately. Leicester won the league in the last decade. We broke into top 4, Villa be top 4 this season. All we need to do is keep building year on year and within three years we’ll be competing at the top level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Infatuation Junkie said: I don’t think we will ever be big enough to fully compete. no wonder we were bought on the cheap Weird comment, and factually impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Unless FFP and FMV get blown up by someone we are likely to remain roughly the 6th biggest club in the premier league in terms of income along with all the disadvantages that goes with that . If the Saudi's build a big shiny new stadium with increased capacity and match day and sponsoring opportunities similar to Spurs we might be able to compete with them again. We are still going to be well behind the Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea, which means less money to buy players, pay wages and virtually all the time this is reflected in the finishing position of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, gbandit said: Look how much we’ve moved forward in the space of two years. It’s a world apart from where things were with Ashley and it will only gain more momentum. It was always going to be toughest immediately. Leicester won the league in the last decade. We broke into top 4, Villa be top 4 this season. All we need to do is keep building year on year and within three years we’ll be competing at the top level You would need to be in the top four consistently for years to have a chance of overtaking Spurs. At the moment, that looks beyond us. 25 minutes ago, manorpark said: Weird comment, and factually impossible. Not sure how it’s factually impossible. I can’t see how we catch up to Spurs at the moment; Man City and Man Utd are light years away. Unless something significantly changes, we have a very obvious ceiling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) If true this is really significant and something long standing for the future of the club. https://x.com/thelittlemans/status/1742930650989232162?s=20 Edited January 4 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 29 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: If true this is really significant and something long standing for the future of the club. https://x.com/thelittlemans/status/1742930650989232162?s=20 Let's hope so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 56 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: If true this is really significant and something long standing for the future of the club. https://x.com/thelittlemans/status/1742930650989232162?s=20 Hoping the Benton Bin Baths are consigned to the past forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, Unbelievable said: Speculative theory: Man City and the PL are in a deadlock, because Man City threaten to take the PL to court over FFP being anti-competitive if they are stripped of their titles and/or demoted a few divisions. Both parties know that Man City would have a very good chance of winning such a case, which would go against the interest of the PL and its big six cartel, and thus a compromise will be reached where parties will just kick the can down the road indefinitely as long as Man City play ball going forward. Hang on, who are the PL’s “big six cartel”? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: If true this is really significant and something long standing for the future of the club. https://x.com/thelittlemans/status/1742930650989232162?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: If true this is really significant and something long standing for the future of the club. https://x.com/thelittlemans/status/1742930650989232162?s=20 But I thought everyone and everything in the club was bad forever due our current run of poor form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 12 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Poor horse racing fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJake Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Poor horse racing fans. I pity those having affairs. Where are they going to go if the Border Minstrel shuts? The Falcons Nest doesn’t have the same ambience or discretion Edited January 4 by LordJake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, LordJake said: I pity those having affairs. Where are they going to go if the Border Minstrel shuts? The Falcons Nest doesn’t have the same ambience or discretion Northumberland piper is proper hidden away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Right on my doorstep that. Highly doubt it but would rather they built it on the racecourse than build on the wooded land, it's where I take the dog for a walk and it's lush there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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