elbee909 Posted Thursday at 22:35 Share Posted Thursday at 22:35 No need to feed the troll, let them eat crisp packets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted Thursday at 22:37 Share Posted Thursday at 22:37 1 hour ago, Matt1892 said: It doesn’t look better, so it is fair to say that we have regressed. It isn’t a controversial statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted Thursday at 23:31 Share Posted Thursday at 23:31 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: Don’t take this the wrong way but do you follow us exclusively on ceefax? Because I cannot believe anyone who watches us thinks our football is at the level of 2022/23. Clowns like you incessantly complained about the football for two periods during the 22/23 season. "Howe has been found out" and all that shit. First, when we could only draw at the beginning. Second, from the January window to after the Cup Final loss. A few were the exact same people calling for Howe's head 10 games into his Newcastle career. And only a few had the balls to admit that they overrracted. The rest of you slunk into the shadows, or pretended that you didn't say any of the horse shit that you said...and cyclically repeat said horse shit when things aren't going perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted Thursday at 23:42 Share Posted Thursday at 23:42 Imagine the state of the squad if Howe had just continued running everyone into the ground with the intense press for 3+ seasons man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Thursday at 23:45 Share Posted Thursday at 23:45 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: Don’t take this the wrong way but do you follow us exclusively on ceefax? Because I cannot believe anyone who watches us thinks our football is at the level of 2022/23. Jesus H, if any manager doesn't match that they are out? Maybe hit a time machine and head back to 2022/23. He's fighting for a European spot and in a cup final. Why does he have to match 2022/23? Is Pep now a piece of shit and not a good manager? I don't get your passionate argument at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looneytoon Posted Friday at 00:35 Share Posted Friday at 00:35 2 hours ago, Decky said: Amazing the shite people are coming out with as we approach our second final under Howe. Even if you're not his biggest fan it's hardly the right time to have this debate is it? Well said. Enough of this bonkers argument please. It's time to unite and get behind Eddie and the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Friday at 03:26 Share Posted Friday at 03:26 Apropos of nothing, I hear we’ve got a cup final this weekend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Friday at 04:56 Share Posted Friday at 04:56 How can you support the club but not "Eddie Howe FC" What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted Friday at 07:06 Share Posted Friday at 07:06 10 hours ago, Matt1892 said: Don’t take this the wrong way but do you follow us exclusively on ceefax? Because I cannot believe anyone who watches us thinks our football is at the level of 2022/23. So what if he does, there’s only one stat that counts and you don’t get any “look good points”. I have no time for people hounding Howe out, sure we all let frustration out sometimes after a bad performance but look at our squad ffs. The players you listed in your statement Almiron, Willock, Joelington have no right getting any team into the top spots and I cannot think that other managers will to be honest yet he does. Be very careful what you wish for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted Friday at 07:07 Share Posted Friday at 07:07 3 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Apropos of nothing, I hear we’ve got a cup final this weekend? Nah you’re wrong - how can we have a cup final when our football doesn’t look pretty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Friday at 07:12 Share Posted Friday at 07:12 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Nah you’re wrong - how can we have a cup final when our football doesn’t look pretty? Don’t get me wrong - playing a beautiful attacking style and blowing Liverpool off the park wouldn’t meet with any complaints from me. But an 90th minute calamitous OG by their keeper to win it after we’ve spent the previous 89 having 20% possession and zero shots on goals would meet with no complaints from me either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Friday at 07:15 Share Posted Friday at 07:15 A lot of children in here!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted Friday at 07:18 Share Posted Friday at 07:18 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Don’t get me wrong - playing a beautiful attacking style and blowing Liverpool off the park wouldn’t meet with any complaints from me. But an 90th minute calamitous OG by their keeper to win it after we’ve spent the previous 89 having 20% possession and zero shots on goals would meet with no complaints from me either Agreed but it’s managing expectations and I have issues with people wanting him sacked because he hasn’t managed to repeat the first time anyone’s got us to champions league in decades. We are a work in progress and our squad is…. Well we all know what it is, we have legitimate reasons we’re not buying players and our current squad is ageing. These are facts out of Eddies control yet he gets on with it and does amazing. Edited Friday at 07:18 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted Friday at 07:19 Share Posted Friday at 07:19 I’d be comfortable saying no other manager could have got the same tune out of our squad the same way as Howe has. We’ve just about got a first team together. Scratch the surface and there’s some squad players that would struggle to get in any other top 7 pl squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Friday at 07:25 Share Posted Friday at 07:25 2 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Agreed but it’s managing expectations and I have issues with people sacking him because he hasn’t managed to repeat the first time anyone’s got us to champions league in decades. We are a work in progress and our squad is…. Well we all know what it is, we have legitimate reasons we’re not buying players and our current squad is ageing. These are facts out of Eddies control yet he gets on with it and does amazing. It’s all context, of course - other managers haven’t exactly had the budget either. But my view remains that (for me) Howe performed a borderline miracle in 21/22, did a superb job in 22/23, did a good job in 23/24, and has done a very good job this season (with caveats around some of the performances early on and recently). We’re 6th and in a cup final - we have to be happy with that is my view (I always get really fucked off when we lose in the FA Cup, so I was annoyed the other week) - the league is so tight that this time next month we could easily be 3rd, or we could be in 10th. I can’t understand any calls for his head tbh - the bloke clearly has a lot of ‘credit in the bank’. When things were looking grim earlier in the season, I was posting in this thread that if it carried on until the end of the season that might be as far as he goes. Barring a major drop in form, we should be ok - and if we win on Sunday, I frankly don’t give two hoots what happens until May. The man will be able to coast on it for some time for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted Friday at 07:34 Share Posted Friday at 07:34 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s all context, of course - other managers haven’t exactly had the budget either. But my view remains that (for me) Howe performed a borderline miracle in 21/22, did a superb job in 22/23, did a good job in 23/24, and has done a very good job this season (with caveats around some of the performances early on and recently). We’re 6th and in a cup final - we have to be happy with that is my view (I always get really fucked off when we lose in the FA Cup, so I was annoyed the other week) - the league is so tight that this time next month we could easily be 3rd, or we could be in 10th. I can’t understand any calls for his head tbh - the bloke clearly has a lot of ‘credit in the bank’. When things were looking grim earlier in the season, I was posting in this thread that if it carried on until the end of the season that might be as far as he goes. Barring a major drop in form, we should be ok - and if we win on Sunday, I frankly don’t give two hoots what happens until May. The man will be able to coast on it for some time for me Agree on the contest so I’m going to use it to the extreme, agreed he had a lot of money but imo he was starting a long way back due to lack of care from last regime, a lot of that money was just to play catch up - even that first season, coming in and finishing just outside top ten was incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Friday at 07:36 Share Posted Friday at 07:36 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Agree on the contest so I’m going to use it to the extreme, agreed he had a lot of money but imo he was starting a long way back due to lack of care from last regime, a lot of that money was just to play catch up - even that first season, coming in and finishing just outside top ten was incredible. 100% mate - you still have to spend it wisely, and Howe mostly did; he has a better transfer success rate than any previous NUFC manager IMO. Just trying to be fair to previous managers - and I’m thinking of the likes of Rafa rather than Bruce (edit: though oddly enough it could be argued that Bruce’s transfers weren’t all that terrible in the long run - and Rafa made some right bollocks-ups! ) Edited Friday at 07:37 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted Friday at 09:27 Share Posted Friday at 09:27 I think the coaching job Howe & team did in 22/23 is severely underrated. Obviously, we'd spent a bit of money, but looking at the team itself that played the majority of the season (remember, Isak missed about 4 months etc.), there's no way you're thinking that's a top 4 team that would end the season with the joint best defensive record & a goal difference of +35. For us nerds, loads of the underlying data was seriously, seriously impressive as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Friday at 11:49 Share Posted Friday at 11:49 4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s all context, of course - other managers haven’t exactly had the budget either. But my view remains that (for me) Howe performed a borderline miracle in 21/22, did a superb job in 22/23, did a good job in 23/24, and has done a very good job this season (with caveats around some of the performances early on and recently). We’re 6th and in a cup final - we have to be happy with that is my view (I always get really fucked off when we lose in the FA Cup, so I was annoyed the other week) - the league is so tight that this time next month we could easily be 3rd, or we could be in 10th. I can’t understand any calls for his head tbh - the bloke clearly has a lot of ‘credit in the bank’. When things were looking grim earlier in the season, I was posting in this thread that if it carried on until the end of the season that might be as far as he goes. Barring a major drop in form, we should be ok - and if we win on Sunday, I frankly don’t give two hoots what happens until May. The man will be able to coast on it for some time for me Agree. People tend to swing wildly in here from "Howe is NOT the man to take us forward!!" to "Fuck off you twat, how dare you question the messiah!" I think our CEO seems to have exactly the right attitude, all the noise from the top is that we have a top manager and he will continue to be backed. I don't see that changing until he's being outperformed by teams with less resources, and even then you have to account for one off seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted Friday at 14:03 Share Posted Friday at 14:03 (edited) How could anyone do better with than the squad Eddie inherited.Improved players got to 2 Cup finals and champions league. Unless alot of money is given to someone else can't see how we could ask for more.One thing for sure if we we're to change there would be alot knocking on his door. Edited Friday at 14:04 by splinter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Friday at 15:04 Share Posted Friday at 15:04 Wonder if he'll win Premier League Manager of the month for March seen as though we only have 1 game and we won it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted Friday at 15:06 Share Posted Friday at 15:06 Three players he chose in the England squad. Must be luck, given how shit he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted Saturday at 10:09 Share Posted Saturday at 10:09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Saturday at 10:25 Share Posted Saturday at 10:25 (edited) 22 hours ago, TRon said: Agree. People tend to swing wildly in here from "Howe is NOT the man to take us forward!!" to "Fuck off you twat, how dare you question the messiah!" I think our CEO seems to have exactly the right attitude, all the noise from the top is that we have a top manager and he will continue to be backed. I don't see that changing until he's being outperformed by teams with less resources, and even then you have to account for one off seasons. Saving us from certain relegation, qualifying for the champions league in the very next season and reaching two cup finals when the club has been in the proverbial wildness for years suggests to me we have the right man currently. Sure there’s areas he can do better in but essentially he’s doing an excellent job and I’m intrigued to see how he can progress the side with a solid recruitment drive this summer. Edited Saturday at 10:25 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Saturday at 10:29 Share Posted Saturday at 10:29 He carries himself so well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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