Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Literally any top 6 champ mid imo, also there will be players abroad. Even just someone who can actually run the requirements are embarrassing low like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Thought we would have gone after Lerma. A lazy Bournemouth link. But would improve us massively. Just due to him being able to run and pass the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Does Nickson even do any scouting, Trippier and Wood aren’t indicative of any kind of process to me. Not exactly unearthing hidden talent there, especially the former. Trippier’s agency seem to have been more influential in this window than our own team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: I don’t understand how adding a slow player (Wood) to an already slow team really helps us. He was awful today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Literally any top 6 champ mid imo, also there will be players abroad. Even just someone who can actually run Been saying this since back in the days of us taking Man U cast offs like Butt, it absolutely enrages me when we buy midfielders who can't run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelevats Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: I don’t understand how adding a slow player (Wood) to an already slow team really helps us. Spent 25million pounds doing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Robster said: I sort of agree but maybe the start of this season suggested that Bruce's luck with those kinds of results had run out. I think we would have been very much rock bottom and cut adrift. I think we would have went down, but for whatever reason Bruce seemed to inconceivably pull a few results out the bag and kept his head above water. That luck may have ran out, but I’m actually less confident Howe could get us more points than sticking with Bruce at this point Edited January 15, 2022 by TheInfiniteOdyssey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 It is concerning if he hasn't identified the midfield as our biggest weakness, like. I'm not sure if that's actually the case or not though, we'll find out in the next couple of weeks. For all we know there could be unreported work going on behind the scenes to strengthen up in there. I have an uneasy feeling that he rates Shelvey in particular a lot higher than any of us in here. I'm not convinced he'll be replaced any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: I mean, I'll look at it as Bruce/Ashley taking us down The problems started before Howe and have continued with Howe, not his players, I'll happily give him time There's no way I'd be letting Howe off scott free tbh. He'd be 50% responsible in my eyes. I honestly think it was very doable when he got the job. As to why he's not had the desired impact, he'll have to look in the mirror but his record with us, imho, is bordering on completely unnacceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Even if we strengthen where we need to (which’ll get tougher as each game passes) it won’t be enough. He’s not worse than Bruce overall but his in-game management is. Bin him off and get Rafa in*, or start preparing for the Championship. *Pipe dream I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Didn't see anything today that was any different to anything I've seen throughout his time in charge and so still not convinced he's the right man, in fact will go as far as saying he isn't right man for us. What worries me more now though is our entire transfer strategy seems to be that better defenders will get us better results when in reality we are in desperate need for players who can put pressure on the opposition with the ball at their feet. Today wasn't about defending badly, it was meaningless possession with no clear vision of how to create clear cut chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, nemtizz said: Even if we strengthen where we need to (which’ll get tougher as each game passes) it won’t be enough. He’s not worse than Bruce overall but his in-game management is. Bin him off and get Rafa in*, or start preparing for the Championship. *Pipe dream I know. I'm 100% convinced Rafa would've kept us up from the same starting position btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I don’t understand how adding a slow player (Wood) to an already slow team really helps us. And at 25 million (still can’t fucking believe that). I was pissed off when we were linked to him (I thought it was another Edwards wind up) and the fact we actually signed him for that amount, still has me pissed off and shaking my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Eddie Howe about a win sometime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Minhosa said: I'm 100% convinced Rafa would've kept us up from the same starting position btw. I'm not so certain of that. Some of you people have very short memories. As I've had to mention a few times, a fair few on here were calling for him to be sacked in December-January 2018. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Andy said: For all that Howe hasn't started well, I'm not having that we'd be better off under Bruce like we're in this mess because of him, his luck had clearly run out this year. The state of the bullshit on here. Absolutely embarrassing. Better off under Bruce man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 And funnily enough, some people were accusing Rafa of having no game plan, and not being able to adjust to the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Andy said: It is concerning if he hasn't identified the midfield as our biggest weakness, like. I'm not sure if that's actually the case or not though, we'll find out in the next couple of weeks. For all we know there could be unreported work going on behind the scenes to strengthen up in there. I have an uneasy feeling that he rates Shelvey in particular a lot higher than any of us in here. I'm not convinced he'll be replaced any time soon. I'm no coach but I just don't see how that works if you want a team to be pressing high. It just seems impossible. Joelinton won the ball about 7 times from the opposition by pressing them today, so whatever else you say about his performance today, you can say he had a positive impact from a tactical POV. I can barely recall Shelvey winning the ball once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, POOT 2.0 said: I mean...Howe is absolutely open to criticism. But sacking Bruce is not in anyway a regrettable thing. Bruce should have been sacked way earlier. Please stop mentioning Bruce, people Bruce 100% needed to be removed, unfortunately he shouldn’t have been replaced by Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Not getting a decent recruitment team in asap, even if just a temporary one, always seemed daft like. People bang on about deals being hard to do in January but I'm 100% sure that decent scouts would be able to find us a midfielder better than Longstaff or Shelvey like. I reckon I could do it with a few darts and a pack of panini stickers. I’m absolutely dying to know who is main voice in terms of recruitment and what’s going on behind the scenes. It’s been clear for years we need new CMs but seems to be an area we’re not prioritising. Is Howe genuinely content with his options there? Find it hard to believe he isn’t pushing for more or has it been decided elsewhere that we have more pressing needs? I’d also love to know how we’re identifying our targets, just seems like a completely scattergun approach. It’s all well and good picking out the likes of Botman and Carlos but we should have the resources now to be able to find players who have so far gone under the radar, making them more attainable for a variety of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, TRon said: They are in a sticky situation now. If he wants to play front foot football, they are going to need to back him and bring in another 4-5 players at least. This lot are barely capable of stringing two passes together, you can't play attacking football with such poor footballers. Fuck knows how he did it with Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I'm not so certain of that. Some of you people have very short memories. As I've had to mention a few times, a fair few on here were calling for him to be sacked in December-January 2018. Is that true? Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The squad is absolutely terrible, midfield has been awful for ages and both the defense and attack are terrible. This is teh result of basically poor recruitment that drove Rafa out. The players that used to perform at a higher level have regressed, Howe needs to get Longstaff playing well again but I dunno if he can. The defence can't handle whats being asked of them, and our attack is too slow to cause too many problems. Too reliant on 'moments of magic' happening still. Howe isn't fully to blame. Maybe it is too toxic. But players like Fraser, Shelvey and Longstaff belong nowhere near a premier league team. nowhere near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Bruce was awful, Howe isn’t doing a very good job. Both of those can be true No idea why a few are struggling with such a simple concept. We all want Howe to succeed, but it hasn’t worked out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Nobody is above criticism and Howe deserves some, 1 win in 10 is absolutely not enough, especially since we've played the dross of the division during that time. And if Wood was his call, looks a bad one on today's evidence. But people shoveling ALL the blame Howe's way are very much under-estimating the damage Bruce did and the loser mentality that is clearly stamped on all too many of our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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