SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Was that Garcia we where linked with last week the Lille manager last season under Campos ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The thing about our squad being mediocre and facilities being limited to say the least is the greatest reason for turning to a manager with a clear and progressive philosophy. Realistically most of the squad won’t be here in 18 months. I’d far prefer a manager that tries to turn us into an attacking team instead of going for a “safe pair of hands”. Rafa would probably be the safest pair of hands we could turn to right now but I’m honestly not sure I’d want to revisit that. There’s always the risk that everything he built with the fans last time out will be tarnished by the new expectations. I’d probably go for an exciting name such as Fonseca/Ten Hag or maybe even Jaissle or Edin Terzic. A manager that can grow along with the club and help mold it together with a DOF/Sporting Director. Whoever they end up hiring will be backed to the hilts from January onwards IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, clintdempsey said: The thing about our squad being mediocre and facilities being limited to say the least is the greatest reason for turning to a manager with a clear and progressive philosophy. Realistically most of the squad won’t be here in 18 months. I’d far prefer a manager that tries to turn us into an attacking team instead of going for a “safe pair of hands”. Rafa would probably be the safest pair of hands we could turn to right now but I’m honestly not sure I’d want to revisit that. There’s always the risk that everything he built with the fans last time out will be tarnished by the new expectations. I’d probably go for an exciting name such as Fonseca/Ten Hag or maybe even Jaissle or Edin Terzic. A manager that can grow along with the club and help mold it together with a DOF/Sporting Director. Whoever they end up hiring will be backed to the hilts from January onwards IMO. Yeah I love Rafa but I really want a manager with a more modern attacking philosophy. The dream is Xavi, but he'll be destined for Barcelona if he does well so probably a bit pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) Still all in on Fonseca myself Edited October 24, 2021 by xLiaaamx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Whys Fonseca managed so many clubs already? He doesn't seem to last very long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I'm still hoping for Fonseca, the apprenticeship that Portuguese managers get is elite and despite his experience he is still relatively young. Bring him in with and let him grow with the club, would be amazing to have a long term manager (that we don't all despise). From the Shaktar stuff he seems to have strong ideas on how things can be run and the facilities revamp can go hand in hand with this. I think Lampard/Rooney would be absolute suicide tbh, not seen enough from either and the inevitable fallout when they are sacked would be the same as Bruce. Gerrard is slightly better but wouldn't want him for similar reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: Whys Fonseca managed so many clubs already? He doesn't seem to last very long. Just seems to have progressed through bigger clubs/leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: Whys Fonseca managed so many clubs already? He doesn't seem to last very long. Porto was the only place he failed, then went to Braga and won them their first trophy in 50 years. He's worked his way up from the lower decisions and majority of moves he's made have been steps up. Roma had a poor squad and changed ownership halfway through his tenure. There was an article posted where Roma fans shared their opinions on his after he left and were largely positive. Nearly all said he'd made the team very reliable at beating teams they were expected too. Edit: https://www.chiesaditotti.com/2021/5/24/22436382/an-appreciation-for-paulo-fonsecas-time-with-roma Good article on his career and tactics (long read!) http://outsideoftheboot.com/2020/05/28/tactical-philosophy-paulo-fonseca/ Edited October 24, 2021 by GeordieDazzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 A lot of left field shouts in here: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El capitán Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Fonseca has a very impressive win rate. 53% win rate in 600 games. He has over a 50% win rate in Serie A and at pacos de Ferreira and Braga where he won’t have had the best players in the league either. I would be very happy with him. Emery makes teams hard to beat and I seem to remember he had Arsenal on a 20 odd game unbeaten run. I would love him too but can we really see a manager leaving a champions league club to come to our relegation battle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, GWN said: 25/1 with WH Hag this morning, decent shout imho , worth a couple of quid I've got him at 66/1 and 50/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 It’s definitely not going to be Ten Hag. It’s OK to dream though! But we have next to 0% chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, joeyt said: A lot of left field shouts in here: Horncastle loves Fonseca. All of his writing on Roma makes mention of how hard done by he was, the injuries etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just now, Chicken Dancer said: It’s definitely not going to be Ten Hag. It’s OK to dream though! But we have next to 0% chance. Any particular reason why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just now, Ben said: Any particular reason why As others have touched on, domestically Ajax are flying and top of their Champions League group with 100% record. As tempting as the promise of riches will be, I just think he’d be more inclined to see the season out and see what other jobs are available. He’s been linked with Barcelona etc, I just don’t think he’s realistic now. Would love him, just maybe a few years too early for going and taking Ajax manager off them whilst he’s still in a job . Also read numerous times that the owners basically want someone out of work, rather than get tangled in a legal battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: It’s definitely not going to be Ten Hag. It’s OK to dream though! But we have next to 0% chance. How are you 100% certain, I don’t care how well Ajax are doing , they can’t offer the salary we can give him , if he’s on £1m a year and we offer £5m you think he will say no? 100%? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I don’t get the legal battle stuff regarding in work managers. I’m sure most managers have release clauses which if met allows them to speak to other clubs. Obviously I understand if the fee is extortionate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: As others have touched on, domestically Ajax are flying and top of their Champions League group with 100% record. As tempting as the promise of riches will be, I just think he’d be more inclined to see the season out and see what other jobs are available. He’s been linked with Barcelona etc, I just don’t think he’s realistic now. Would love him, just maybe a few years too early for going and taking Ajax manager off them whilst he’s still in a job . Also read numerous times that the owners basically want someone out of work, rather than get tangled in a legal battle. Why would you have a legal battle , if you want someone you pay for it , you agree a fee and off you pop , it’s how it works in general? I agree with other posters it may be pie in the sky but if these owners want they will get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 minute ago, GWN said: How are you 100% certain, I don’t care how well Ajax are doing , they can’t offer the salary we can give him , if he’s on £1m a year and we offer £5m you think he will say no? 100%? ‘Next to 0%’. There’s always a chance - like you say, money talks. But I’ll be astounded if it’s him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I don’t get the legal battle stuff regarding in work managers. I’m sure most managers have release clauses which if met allows them to speak to other clubs. Obviously I understand if the fee is extortionate. From what I’ve read and understand, they were talking about not approaching Premier League based employed managers so as not to cause more bad feeling between clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 minute ago, POOT 2.0 said: He said "now is not the time", if that means anything Drop £5m a year into the pot and the time will be there , we all know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Managers generally don't have a release clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Managers generally don't have a release clause. Pretty sure it was Hope who said Martinez had a 2 million release clause and Emery 7 million I might have heard that wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I think it’s more “Compensation” basically buying out the contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Amorim from Sporting has a 20 to 30 million euro release clause too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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