Eddie Howe

[Rich]

16 minutes ago, Kanji said:

 

I think the subs were right on the surface. I'm certain he couldn't have predicted Hayden to forget how to pass the ball or communicate with his teammates when he blundered about 3-5 counter attack chances. 

 

Playing Hayden on the wrong side of the diamond was very questionable to me, the position seemed tailor-made for Almiron in the circumstances, so he could support Lewis a bit after they went 4-4-2 and brought the big(ish) lad on.

 

Then Almiron does come on, and instead of going 4-4-1-1 (tucking Hayden in and Miggy going LM) to protect the flanks he plays him in ASM's position in Wilson's pocket. At that point in the game it surely has to be about solidity and managing the clock, for me.

 

I said this at the time, btw, so it's not pure hindsight talking. It was clear what Norwich's plan was after their final sub, overload the flanks and get the ball in the box.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Wrong team wrong subs. We are better with him here and working a lot harder, mixed bag so far but more good than bad. 

[Rich]

Still, I'll caveat this by saying it's his third game and he missed his first one with COVID. He'll surely learn, but he has to learn fast given the position we're in.

 

We can't be seeing Clark and Ritchie next game, and I personally don't want to see Hayden on the park again at all.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Have to say the gameplan after the red was very good and we probably deserved the win.
 

Such a shame that Howe wasn’t afforded any time to really look at players, and these must-win games came so early in his reign. 
 

 

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, Rich said:

Still, I'll caveat this by saying it's his third game and he missed his first one with COVID. He'll surely learn, but he has to learn fast given the position we're in.

 

We can't be seeing Clark and Ritchie next game, and I personally don't want to see Hayden on the park again at all.

 

We‘ll be in trouble if we do. I think playing a suspended player is possibly against the rules.

[Yorkie]

I was really impressed with the change in us against Brentford and I thought we'd have seen out a comfortable win tonight, had we not been totally crippled by the stupidity of one individual. Arsenal we lost and there were issues with the line-up, but he also spent the entire preparation for that ravaged by COVID and stuck in a hotel room.

 

Ridiculously early to make any conclusions about him so far, particularly considering the utterly desperate situation he walked into. I enjoy his dignity and intensity and have hopes that he'll give us a fighting chance of staying up. 

[Rich]

3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

We‘ll be in trouble if we do. I think playing a suspended player is possibly against the rules.

 

I think you might be right. "Next time they're available".

[M1tche]

Disappointed he didnt start Fede and thought Wilson should have come off instead of St Max, but if he was truly spent that fair enough. 

 

We lose that under Bruce and was happy didnt just sit in a defend after we went down to 10

[gazza ladra]

8 minutes ago, Hhtoon said:

A significant number of our squad have errors in them, that's why we're where we are. Think it was fair Howe gave people a chance based in training - if Clark outshone Schar and Fed then he deserved the chance.

For all we know, Schar makes fuckups like the one that almost cost us the game tonight multiple times in training whilst Clark is a rock...

 

Fed on the other hand is odd - something seems off there but I guess we don't have the luxury of knowing what happens off the pitch.

I think fatigue had something to do with that. He got forward a lot.

[Deputy Dawg UK]

Plus points Lewis looked assured at left back Fernandez did what we all know he does joelinton ran his socks off and in fairness shelvey has stepped up his game !!! Another great point is .. it is surely Clarke’s last game and Ritchie will have to wait till Lewis gets injured 

[et tu brute]

8 minutes ago, Rich said:

Still, I'll caveat this by saying it's his third game and he missed his first one with COVID. He'll surely learn, but he has to learn fast given the position we're in.

 

We can't be seeing Clark and Ritchie next game, and I personally don't want to see Hayden on the park again at all.

 

He was shocking when he came on mind.

[Beth]

29 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

I think he's still discovering his best team. Fucked Darlow off after Brentford, needs to fuck Clark off and we need to keep that same back 4 for Burnley.

He could have watched videos or asked his coaching staff to find that out. Brentford, Norwich and Burnley at home and the best we can do now is 5 points from 9.

[Fantail Breeze]

It’s crazy to have a manager who clearly adapts his tactics to the opposition and doesn’t play the same turgid way every single game.

 

Yes, he got it wrong against Arsenal, but in the other two games he’s managed two difficult situations and we’ve been unlucky to only come away with two points.

 

I also see players running through brick walls for him. ASM and Shelvey two talented players who could be liable to throw the towel in are giving him 110%.
 

We’ve seen immediate improvement in individual players like Joelinton and Lewis today.

 

The signs are good. We can going like we are and we’ll pick wins and points up.

 

I’d much rather he gets to know the team and players he can trust in November, rather than March like Rafa was faced with.

[Stottie]

He finally gets in the stadium at home with a winnable fixture and an up-for-it crowd, and nine minutes in, we're playing a rearguard action with his game plan in tatters. What a waste.

 

Staveley said the other day that the squad was capable of more, maybe a deserved dig at Bruce, but our best chance of survival lies in having the kind of transfer window no team in the bottom three has ever seen. One that blows all the "no team has ever...." data points out of the water. Clark today showed what the squad is capable of.

[Nobody]

34 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

The best guess is that Howe has recieved some pitifiul notes on the squad since coming in.

Quite likely Tbf. Jones was pretty fucking awful for the games he was in charge, and Howe was locked in a hotel room for a crucial week. 

[midds]

Needs to buy players for a promotion push in Jan this year, I had massive faith in him doing his homework and knowing the in's and out's of the players he'd inherited but that faith is diminishing unfortunately. He's picking proven liabilities and they're doing what they've always done, they don't pick themselves, it's not an accident Clark started today, it's not an accident Darlow started against Brentford, they're selected and they play. They make mistakes and you must look at the manager. They're dogshit. He must see that. If he doesn't see it then the blame shifts to him. 

 

I'm hugely behind Howe, I like him and his methods, but if he continues to pick players who let him down regularly then the blame shifts pretty quickly. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

We just need a game against Burnley where we play like this and nobody makes an absolute critical howler. Then we’ll be hopefully up and running. 
 

So unlucky for him today, although he did select Clark over Fernandez. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Quite likely Tbf. Jones was pretty fucking awful for the games he was in charge, and Howe was locked in a hotel room for a crucial week. 

We should have purged Jones with the Steves, these little mistakes can add up if you’re not careful. 

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, midds said:

Needs to buy players for a promotion push in Jan this year, I had massive faith in him doing his homework and knowing the in's and out's of the players he'd inherited but that faith is diminishing unfortunately. He's picking proven liabilities and they're doing what they've always done, they don't pick themselves, it's not an accident Clark started today, it's not an accident Darlow started against Brentford, they're selected and they play. They make mistakes and you must look at the manager. They're dogshit. He must see that. If he doesn't see it then the blame shifts to him. 

 

I'm hugely behind Howe, I like him and his methods, but if he continues to pick players who let him down regularly then the blame shifts pretty quickly. 

I feel like that might be a tad early to come to those conclusions. 
 

If he automatically brings Ritchie and Lascelles back into the team. Then I think I’d agree with you.

 

All that said, it doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be behind him. Rafa regularly left out some of the players I liked and IMO made baffling selections at times. But if it starts to get results, then it won’t be seen as such an issue.  

[Dr Jinx]

Two draws and a loss to Arsenal isn’t the worst considering the dumb individual errors which were made in all three games.

 

Think of what he’s learned about certain players.

 

Darlow - errors which literally cost goals.

Lascelles - Zero leadership, statue like, watches the disaster unfold around him like a spectator.

Clark - ugh.. enough said.

Schar - needs to be kept in check, if he does the basics and gets to pass the ball when he’s in space he’s our best option at the back.

Fernandez - better than Lascelles and the real captain imho.

Lewis - deserves a chance

Joelinton - transformative. Best player on the pitch tonight and against Brentford.

Almiron - dependable. Think he’ll find a place in the side, until January at least.

 

When everyone is available this should guide team selection.

[Raconteur]

17 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

I feel like that might be a tad early to come to those conclusions. 
 

If he automatically brings Ritchie and Lascelles back into the team. Then I think I’d agree with you.

 

All that said, it doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be behind him. Rafa regularly left out some of the players I liked and IMO made baffling selections at times. But if it starts to get results, then it won’t be seen as such an issue.  

With all the calls for Clark to be replaced by Fernandez, it seems most have forgotten the club captain will be coming straight back in.

 

If Fernandez starts against Burnley, it will likely be in place of Schar…

[The Prophet]

It definitely feels like he doesn't know his best team, but performances are improving.

[GWN]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

It definitely feels like he doesn't know his best team, but performances are improving.

Because it’s not his team 

[Hanshithispantz]

31 minutes ago, midds said:

Needs to buy players for a promotion push in Jan this year, I had massive faith in him doing his homework and knowing the in's and out's of the players he'd inherited but that faith is diminishing unfortunately. He's picking proven liabilities and they're doing what they've always done, they don't pick themselves, it's not an accident Clark started today, it's not an accident Darlow started against Brentford, they're selected and they play. They make mistakes and you must look at the manager. They're dogshit. He must see that. If he doesn't see it then the blame shifts to him. 

 

I'm hugely behind Howe, I like him and his methods, but if he continues to pick players who let him down regularly then the blame shifts pretty quickly. 

Pretty clear now that he blagged that interview like 

 

I'm happy with him and the performance with 10 men was impressive. But it's plain as day that he knew very little about us beyond some probable internet scouting and MotD.

 

This is why I wanted a clearout of staff and a proper DoF in and for the club to regulate our coaches and the assistant instead of Howe. As much as I'm excited for Howe's ideas I would feel a lot more confident if the people he talks with about football everyday had some clout about them.

 

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Hanshithispantz

[Nobody]

7 minutes ago, Raconteur said:

With all the calls for Clark to be replaced by Fernandez, it seems most have forgotten the club captain will be coming straight back in.

 

If Fernandez starts against Burnley, it will likely be in place of Schar…

Makes sense against Burnley though. Depends on how much Howe wants to pander to the opposition. If we would have won today (and Schär almost giving away a point at the end), I think we 100% see the same back 5 as the last 80 minutes tonight.