Eddie Howe

[ponsaelius]

6 minutes ago, christ said:

I don’t think much of our fans generally but this place is chock full of the most conceited, entitled fuckers that we possess. And it’s only got worse since the takeover. 

 

Similarly I would say there are posters on here who contribute so little they might as well just log off, such is their inability to engage with nuance or debate without having a childish meltdown and slagging off other supporters. In fact since the ownership change this has got worse - such is the positivity towards the new ownership.

 

Nobody has anything other than praise for the unbelievable job that Howe has done. But two 3rd round exits to lower league opposition is, in isolation, a bit of a disappointment. That is all and I imagine Howe is himself very frustrated by it. 

[midds]

If I'm Eddie Howe on the bus back up the A1 then I'm not even looking at them, let alone speaking to some of them tonight. They wanted a chance, they got a chance and they completely blew it with that pigshit tonight. 

[madras]

5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Similarly I would say there are posters on here who contribute so little they might as well just log off, such is their inability to engage with nuance or debate without having a childish meltdown and slagging off other supporters. In fact since the ownership change this has got worse - such is the positivity towards the new ownership.

 

Nobody has anything other than praise for the unbelievable job that Howe has done. But two 3rd round exits to lower league opposition is, in isolation, a bit of a disappointment. That is all and I imagine Howe is himself very frustrated by it. 

Can't just say that. Gotta name names.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Similarly I would say there are posters on here who contribute so little they might as well just log off, such is their inability to engage with nuance or debate without having a childish meltdown and slagging off other supporters. In fact since the ownership change this has got worse - such is the positivity towards the new ownership.

 

Nobody has anything other than praise for the unbelievable job that Howe has done. But two 3rd round exits to lower league opposition is, in isolation, a bit of a disappointment. That is all and I imagine Howe is himself very frustrated by it. 

 

 

I don't think you should be isolating them though. One was at the start of his reign before the transfers came in when we were bottom of the league, this season's has come when we're clearly prioritising a cup that we're 2 rounds away from a final and are going for a top 6 position. Both games we created more than enough clearcut chances to win as well. 

[toon25]

Of course he'll be gutted. At the end of the day, this result isn't on him. It's the absolute shower he was left with who were largely inept to squeeze a result out of an FA Cup tie to frankly shite opposition.

 

All this is is a stark reminder of the lack of depth and quality we have. The players that were out there tonight had a chance to make a claim for a starting place. They fucked it up royally.

 

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by toon25

[Guest]

If we're going into 'in isolation' territory then Steve Bruce is a better FA Cup manager than him. Think we all know that's bollocks.

[Ronaldo]

3 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Of course he'll be gutted. At the end of the day, this result isn't on him. It's the absolute shower he was left with who were largely inept to squeeze a result out of an FA Cup tie to frankly shite opposition.

 

All this is is a stark reminder of the lack of depth and quality we have. The players that were out there tonight had a chance to make a claim for a starting place. They fucked it up royally.

 

 

 

To be fair, none of our fringe players, if in their right minds, think they have a claim for a starting place.
 

Probably why Lascelles hasn’t moaned yet. He must look at Schar and Botman and think ‘fair play, I’m shit’. 

[Guest]

Just now, Ronaldo said:

To be fair, none of our fringe players, if in their right minds, think they have a claim for a starting place.
 

Probably why Lascelles hasn’t moaned yet. He must look at Schar and Botman and think ‘fair play, I’m shit’. 

 

I noticed today Ritchie was a lot calmer than he normally is, especially when the subs came on. When he's played regularly I think he's seen himself as one of the major players, I think he recognises he's not at the level of those around him today later on in the game. I thought he was decent fwiw.

[Wolfcastle]

44 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

It really goes to show how quickly certain fans will turn on him if things aren't consistently rosy in the garden. We're on the up, but there's going to be bumps and set backs along the way.

Its disappointing. The last two times we were doing well, this was not the reaction at Luton with an infinitely better team under KK that was also 3rd or under Sir Bobby in his various losses to lower league teams (Wolves, West Brom, Norwich). Old school maybe but cant see how that's the wrong way to handle it.

 

Arsenal, Blackburn, Leeds and ourselves were beaten by lower league sides (Arsenal at home by 3rd Division Bolton) that week at Luton. They won the cup Winners Cup four month later. We finished 3rd and Blackburn 2nd. 

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by Wolfcastle

[Jaqen]

He had no choice but to rest players, man. Most in fact had even weaker lineups to send out in the pregame thread. There was enough out there to beat a League one side and we did have the chances. Their keepers had a good game and we've missed three sitters. Just one of those days that often happen in these sort of games. 

 

The hectic schedule, our threadbare squad along with the league cup and league form made perfect sense to give our keys players a rest for this fixture and prioritise others. He's been let down by the players he's given a chance too, it's hard to pin much blame on him. 

[LV]

1 hour ago, Newcastle Fan said:

This is a big blow for us and for him, he needs to react the right way and send a strong message.

Which is? 

[toon25]

6 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

To be fair, none of our fringe players, if in their right minds, think they have a claim for a starting place.
 

Probably why Lascelles hasn’t moaned yet. He must look at Schar and Botman and think ‘fair play, I’m shit’. 

 

Yep, agreed

[TheBrownBottle]

5 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

Its disappointing. The last two times we were doing well, this was not the reaction at Luton with an infinitely better team under KK that was also 3rd or under Sir Bobby in his various losses to lower league teams (Wolves, West Brom, Norwich). Old school maybe but cant see how that's the wrong way to handle it.

 

Arsenal, Blackburn, Leeds and ourselves were beaten by lower league sides (Arsenal at home by 3rd Division Bolton) that week at Luton. They won the cup Winners Cup four month later. We finished 3rd and Blackburn 2nd. 

 

 

 

 

I was on the coaches back from Luton in 94 and Wolves in 03 mind - plenty were fucking furious  

[TheBrownBottle]

He’s done a fucking superb job at NUFC, and I hope he’s here for a decade.

 

And I also hope that during that decade he starts playing stronger starting XIs in the FA Cup  

[HaydnNUFC]

7 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

Its disappointing. The last two times we were doing well, this was not the reaction at Luton with an infinitely better team under KK that was also 3rd or under Sir Bobby in his various losses to lower league teams (Wolves, West Brom, Norwich). Old school maybe but cant see how that's the wrong way to handle it.

 

Arsenal, Blackburn, Leeds and ourselves were beaten by lower league sides (Arsenal at home by 3rd Division Bolton) that week at Luton. They won the cup Winners Cup four month later. We finished 3rd and Blackburn 2nd. 

 

 

 

 

 

Even after binging old season review after season review over lockdown, I completely forgot about those cup losses when we were mint until reading this. Feel better now. I'll get the Leicester thread up

[Kid Icarus]

54 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Bruce and Pardew both got us to League Cup quarter finals. Rafa did it in the Championship ffs. It's hardly a massive achievement especially when combined with abysmal FA Cup exits.

 

Big pressure on Tuesday to save our season in terms of cup performances IMO considering where our ambitions are supposed to be now. 

Would never have expected these posts from you like. Jesus

[nufc123]

Dont get the go at Howe at all. You cant play Bruno, Trippier, Almiron etc every match. Its just not possible. You could say maybe Ritchie is done as player but im not sure Fraser would make anything better. Im more disappointed with the backups who showed they dont deserve more gametime.

[Wolfcastle]

I'd  have hauled Lascelles off for Burn being ruthless because he's so suspect and in a critical condition.

Not much can be done with the other dreck. Maybe Lewis with him but that risks a purple.

8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I was on the coaches back from Luton in 94 and Wolves in 03 mind - plenty were fucking furious  

So was I at Luton, car to Wolves, were pissers, but that wasn't my experience. Anyone questioning those managers or players at those times is a proven dick. Probably enjoyed the performance in the San Siro a few month later the fannies.

 

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by Wolfcastle

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, nufc123 said:

Dont get the go at Howe at all. You cant play Bruno, Trippier, Almiron etc every match. It’s just not possible. You could say maybe Ritchie is done as player but im not sure Fraser would make anything better. Im more disappointed with the backups who showed they dont deserve more gametime.

I wish I cared enough to dig out posts from people crying about Bruno getting injured when Howe brought him on against Tranmere. Wonder how many people are no berating him for not playing a strong team.

 

In Howe I trust. All about Tuesday.

[TheBrownBottle]

3 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

I'd  have hauled Lascelles off for Burn being ruthless because he's so suspect and in a critical condition.

Not much can be done with the other dreck. Maybe Lewis with him but that risks a purple.

So was I at Luton, car to Wolves, were pissers, but that wasn't my experience. Anyone question those managers or players at those times is a proven dick

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t remember anyone calling for KK or BR’s heads - I haven’t seen anyone calling for Howe’s - but there was a fair bit of anger.  Wolves in particular- after coming back from 2-0 down we chucked that away.

 

edit we did also play first XIs in those games

 

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by TheBrownBottle

[Theregulars]

I think he made 2 small mistakes, no Pope and no Wilson. If you know Isak is playing 45 mins only, you’ve to have Wilson on the bench if you need a goal. It’s anti-factual to believe Chris wood will score, he’s largely not done for a year and looked pretty poor in the process. 
 

He doesn’t get blamed for (1) how bad Murphy, Lascelles, Anderson, wood and Lewis were; or (2) the 3 missed sitters (Anderson’s was criminal, Wood’s worse). 
 

He was right to rotate but he didn’t leave himself enough leeway given how little a lot of those players have played. 
 

I hope this focuses his mind away from his FFP/injuries dictating transfer chat, which I know is political, but that was incontrovertible evidence that the squad is shallow beyond the first 11, ASM, Shelvey and Targett (and to be fair we were unlucky with all 3 of those being out; the drop off to Murphy, Anderson and Lewis was savage).

[ExiledGeordie]

Get Howe out, one match to save him and the Toon on Tuesday ?

[HaydnNUFC]

Just now, ExiledGeordie said:

Get Howe out, one match to save him and the Toon on Tuesday ?

 

Should've sacked him this time last year and replaced him with Benitez as we were definitely going down iirc.

[huss9]

as someone said earier, hope he's absolutely fuming on the coach home and they all realise how pissed off he is.

players let him down.

he didnt let us or the club down.

we'll call him out if he fucks up, but he didnt today.

 

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by huss9

[LV]

5 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

I think he made 2 small mistakes, no Pope and no Wilson. If you know Isak is playing 45 mins only, you’ve to have Wilson on the bench if you need a goal. It’s anti-factual to believe Chris wood will score, he’s largely not done for a year and looked pretty poor in the process. 
 

He doesn’t get blamed for (1) how bad Murphy, Lascelles, Anderson, wood and Lewis were; or (2) the 3 missed sitters (Anderson’s was criminal, Wood’s worse). 
 

He was right to rotate but he didn’t leave himself enough leeway given how little a lot of those players have played. 
 

I hope this focuses his mind away from his FFP/injuries dictating transfer chat, which I know is political, but that was incontrovertible evidence that the squad is shallow beyond the first 11, ASM, Shelvey and Targett (and to be fair we were unlucky with all 3 of those being out; the drop off to Murphy, Anderson and Lewis was savage).

Wilson still getting over illness