Dr.Spaceman Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It's a meaningless award dished out subjectively by the same group of people who think VAR is a good idea. Don't worry about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'm not sure exactly when the voting took place, but a problem with these awards is that it doesn't take place at the end of the season. I suspect that if the vote had happened after our CL qualification was affirmed, Eddie would have stood a better chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Also people getting indignant at the resources that Pep has and the unfairness of that should remember that in a few seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It should go to the manager that has over achieved the most , that’s Eddie this season no doubt about it . Pep hasn’t really over achieved at all, just done what was expected of him really . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Man City weren't even that impressive in the PL overall, by their recent historical standards. Seems like them wanting to recognise 3 titles in a row with this award. It should be an award based on achievements versus how relatively hard the job was, with some additional focus on style and performances. In which case, Howe wins by a landslide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, Si said: Also people getting indignant at the resources that Pep has and the unfairness of that should remember that in a few seasons. Personally, I'm not bothered about the expenditure specifically. It's the strong suspicion that the club has gained an advantage by ignoring financial rules that every other club has had to abide by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 51 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Man City weren't even that impressive in the PL overall, by their recent historical standards. Seems like them wanting to recognise 3 titles in a row with this award. It should be an award based on achievements versus how relatively hard the job was, with some additional focus on style and performances. In which case, Howe wins by a landslide. 3 titles in a row is pretty impressive though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: 3 titles in a row is pretty impressive though. I'd definitely have him favourite for the manager of the last 3 seasons award then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said: I'd definitely have him favourite for the manager of the last 3 seasons award then. This is exactly it. "Giggs" has its own meaning on here but really it should mean gatecrashing an award you have no right to be given if applying its normal and intended parameters. Guardiola has done a Giggs - it's not an egregious Giggs, it's a mild Giggs, but it's still a Giggs. Giggs. Edited May 31, 2023 by Interpolic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 How did Pardew get it and Howe didn’t? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Ben said: Obviously I wanted Howe to win, but saying Pep doesn't deserve it after the season he's had is crackers Well he doesn't though. He only won the title because Arsenal bottled it and that's after having added the world's best striker to the team that won the league last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Its not even a great Man City league team either, 89 points isn't great for Pep in the league which shows how good he is. He has won it because everyone expects them to win the treble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 53 minutes ago, catlover24 said: How did Pardew get it and Howe didn’t? It was science against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Very disappointed Howe didnt win it. Pep took City from 1st with 93 points to 1st with 89 points. Howe took Newcastle from 11th with 49 points to 4th with 71 points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Its not even a great Man City league team either, 89 points isn't great for Pep in the league which shows how good he is. He has won it because everyone expects them to win the treble. I'm guessing if they'd needed to, and they didn't have two finals upcoming, they'd have beaten Brighton and Brentford with first-choice teams and ended on 94. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 In a way it's more impressive that Man City have won the league in second gear while prioritising the CL. I think Eddie deserved the award but the have been class this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) I disagree this City team not being their best actually, yes the points total is not as dominating as earlier ones (and the one that beat Liverpool by a point with ridiculous total probably has to be the benchmark) but I think if it wins the treble it has to be classified as the best he's done. Equally maybe it has more dips in quality, that demolishing of Real Madrid may be the best Man City performance I've ever watched. It was just complete, and felt similar to when Pep's Barca did the same to Real Madrid and you thought oh bloody hell this is just unplayable Edited May 31, 2023 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Howe obviously fully deserves the award but he won't care and nor do I. Let us continue to go under the radar a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) Howe, Di Zerbi and Emery deserve it ahead of Pep in the league like. As mentioned ad infinitum the award is completely pointless if you just give it to the best team in the league's manager without them doing something out of the ordinary. Edited May 31, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) Eddie truly deserved manager of the Season, But we where screwed over By the Slipery6 and corrupt FA. Man City have breached FFP for over a decade & STILL nothing has been done about it. Things never change. Edited May 31, 2023 by prefabtoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 The best argument I can find for Pep is that he managed to win the PL at a canter while prioritising another competition. The way he has managed his squad has been incredible, although obviously that squad is packed full of world-class footballers. And the voting was held mainly before we had confirmed CL, like someone said above. Which is stupid in itself. Then again, Pep hasn't won the FA Cup or Champions League yet either (even though he obviously will). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Pep has actually won two awards here - LMA Manager of the Year and also Premier League Manager of the Year. It's not unreasonable he's won the LMA award with the expectation (but no guarantee) that the treble is on the cards, he's made the finals at the very least. I don't know/care if the LMA award is voted for by fellow managers so perhaps that's taken into consideration. The Premier League award has to go to Eddie - has to. I'm not going to repeat the mass of evidence that we've all put together but even objectively, even to the Brains Trust that hand out that multicoloured monstrosity, in the Premier League there has been no other manager that has performed better than Eddie Howe over the last year. As petty a man as I am, I couldn't help but be tickled that BT Sport referred to devout Catalan nationalist Pep Guardiola as a Spaniard. I hope it annoys him. Eddie doesn't seem one for personal awards anyway so I hope he's alright knowing he has our unwavering love, support and admiration to fall back on and our city is his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I don't begrudge Pep winning it as he is fantastic and they have a very reasonable chance of doing the treble, but it does seem rather odd that Pardew won it in 2012 when our turnaround under Howe has been much more impressive? It seems to be given for performance in everything, given Klopp won it last year for finishing second but a chance at a quadruple. Also odd given Liverpool ended up with FA & League Cup and Man City still could (albeit unlikely) end with only the league. I say only with a pinch of salt, but we are at the stage where it's more or less expected for Man City to win the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: I say only with a pinch of salt, but we are at the stage where it's more or less expected for Man City to win the league. Guess the question there is are they expected to win the league because Pep is such a brilliant manager. If so it shouldn't really count against him in this award. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) If you said at the start of the season Man City will win the league and get to the CL and FA cup finals, no one would bat an eyelid because it’s seen as standard. It’s a lazy choice. These awards don’t matter though, I doubt Guardiola and Eddie care if they win or lose it. Edited May 31, 2023 by Kimbo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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