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1 minute ago, GEFAFWISP said:

Said it in the Gordon thread but if Barnes slides Wilson in instead of dallying we're all talking about our glorious leader again. Doubt Eddie told Barnes to not pass when 2v1. It's a funny old game.


Like what was he even overthinking there?

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4 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:


No idea who you are or what your tenuous link the club is, but that the second half was genuinely an unacceptable mess due to substitutions that were indefensible. I love Eddie but that was wasn’t good enough and we have a right to say it.

You've jumped the shark here Ronny, fallen into self-parody at this point.

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4 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:


No idea who you are or what your tenuous link the club is, but that the second half was genuinely an unacceptable mess due to substitutions that were indefensible. I love Eddie but that was wasn’t good enough and we have a right to say it.

 

Tenuous link ffs. :lol: Hope we go on a winning run mostly so I don’t have to read your posts.

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Honestly I thought we were good until the substitutions. They never looked like scoring against us and we had them pinned in their own 1/3, without us really creating good chances or being particularly good with the ball. The subs were calamitous though.

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Shit start to the season from him overall.

 

He has significant reserves of capital with the fans, but the ambitions of the owners are more demanding, and I suspect they will afford fewer mistakes. If he can't get this side to make the leap against the big sides in the big games in the next two seasons... Wouldn't be surprised if they revisit if he is the person to deliver on the loftiest of ambitions.

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1 minute ago, Fromwallsend said:

Had enough now like, seasons over already Howe has to go, get Zidane in! 

 

I could be wrong here lads but I have a sneaky suspicion Fromwallsend isn't, in fact, from Wallsend. 

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He'll be furious with himself looking back on this, I think.

 

Approach in the second half was exactly what Liverpool would have wanted, and then his subs were terrible.

 

I'd generally never support Isak being taken off but he wasn't really firing today so fair enough.

 

But Gordon was absolutely on one today, taking him off was mental. And Tonali off for Longstaff was arguably worse.

 

Perhaps it's a fitness issue, those two are still Tonali is new and Gordon had the Euros, maybe he doesn't feel they can do 90 minutes yet? Given we had so little chasing to do though I can't imagine either was spent physically, Gordon still looked full of burst.

 

Feels a bit like once we were a goal and a man up we basically bottled it today :(

 

Today was bad from him, anyone getting aggro with people pointing that out are as tedious as the people saying we need to start thinking about a new manager IMO.

 

All that said, Eddie has earned a very long leash. He'll know today was bad and will want to learn from it and ensure we're more ruthless the next time we find ourselves in this situation.

 

I have every faith in him.

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Bad day at the office but no one's perfect. 

 

Klopp hasn't been at Liverpool for 7 years because he's a cretin, he's been there because even though he is a cretin, he is good at his job. He's also 11 years older than Howe and been managing a lot longer than him. 

 

No way Howe out. He's here to stay and learn and grow with us. 

 

And he will. This game will haunt him. 

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He’ll learn from this - he’ll make some more ruthless decisions going forward.  
 

would have liked to see isak + Wilson on to kill them off; would have liked to see Murph on at some point too. 
 

need to hit the transfer market asap if the Botman injury is serious. 
 

I love Eddie. Just upset with how pure joy for Sunday turned into pure agony. 

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17 minutes ago, arnonel said:

Same people who wanted Barnes to start in place of Gordon now moaning Barnes repleced Gordon

Barnes should have replaced Gordon and Gordon (or Barnes) should have replaced Almiron who was pants. 

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18 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Away Toon would likely love nothing more than for him to fail. He was one of the worst during Howe’s early days.

I don't think he's an elite manager and I don't think he'll take us to where the supporters and owner's want us to be. Just my opinion. Hope I'm wrong.

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All I can say is that I hope Hall gets his name on the team sheet for our next game. Nunez, from more less the same position, slotted it passed Pope with ease. Marking was terrible. Not us.

 

Gordon was by far our best player in attack, but otherwise definitely wasn’t working for us elsewhere. 


I think miggy might be out of luck with Murphy playing, but it certainly does seem we do need to strengthen in that area. 

midfield is still a bit all over the place too. I do really feel bad for Anderson who has obviously performed well in pre-season. We don’t have a player like him centrally in midfield. 

 

I do trust we’ll figure it out. We’ve had some tough games to start with. Obviously were tremendous against Villa. We’re always gonna struggle against City away, but in this game obviously they need to figure it out with more difficult challenges ahead in the season, what we need to change. 

 

 

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Yeah, more than happy for Eddie to learn from this. 

 

I'm repeating myself but I do hope he drops a player or two for the next game. More so to make a statement rather than any players I have in mind. They need to know that the starting 11 doesn't pick itself, as it appears to.

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