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9 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

Don't think Howe would take the job but, at the same time, I'm quite confident we'd find an upgrade.

 

Chilled either way.

Easier said than done finding an upgrade.

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13 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Winning an international tournament isn’t some simple thing. They come around once every two years, there are a lot of good teams. The idea that someone is ready to go in and is odds to win with England is a bit of a stretch 

 

Aye, I think it's a deceivingly hard job for whoever follows Southgate. Could easily see someone come in and have the side looking much more balanced and playing better football and getting knocked out in the quarters or something with a more difficult draw. 

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Carragher says Howe is the only choice for England, I wonder if he would say that if he was the Liverpool manager ? 

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1 minute ago, Ben said:

Carragher says Howe is the only choice for England, I wonder if he would say that if he was the Liverpool manager ? 

No chance 

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5 minutes ago, Ben said:

Carragher says Howe is the only choice for England, I wonder if he would say that if he was the Liverpool manager ? 

Bloke's a fucking idiot, when he was on last night about Southgate is the only man for the job I thought he was worried about Klopp being interested and the "scouse not English" stuff like someone mentioned above or on the England thread.

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29 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

Don't think Howe would take the job but, at the same time, I'm quite confident we'd find an upgrade.

 

Chilled either way.

Who do you think we are getting as an upgrade out of interest?

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1 minute ago, jack j said:

Who do you think we are getting as an upgrade out of interest?


IF we could get Poch, he’d be an upgrade.

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Difficult this. It's a job he's said he wants and there might not be a better time for him if he does get offered it. 

 

I think there's a chance of him leaving. 20%? 

 

I mean, what if he has another 8th place finish next season? The England role would be filled and his star would have dropped. 

 

I can see why he would take it if offered. I believe that he loves this club and wants to win things here, but I also think he's clever and pragmatic.

 

For the record I'd hate for him to leave.

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If the FA offer Howe 2 years with say another 2 years optional he’d have to consider it. In lots of ways he’d be mad to turn it down. 

 

 

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I'd be gutted if Howe went to manage bloody England, a team I only care about briefly once every two years. Sorry if you feel differently.

 

Don't think he will, mind and nor would any top club manager.  Even if this England team had won it, I reckon most football fans would have moved on after a day on the lash and be looking to their own club's transfer business more by now.

 

Just appoint that parsley bloke and we can forget all about it for a couple more years, bar getting annoyed with the odd international break when there's no proper football, so watching us have to stutter past San Marino in a meaningless friendly just out of boredom.

 

That was all unnecessarily negative :lol:

 

Edit - he might have won us an extra bank holiday though, so in retrospect Howe in.

 

 

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1 minute ago, madras said:

Not too sure about that like.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather Howe stayed as he has been great for us, and because of the upheaval it would cause. But let’s be honest and removing any bias, any top job becomes available and Poch is higher on an owners list than Howe. 

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55 minutes ago, Aiston said:

What's with all the worries ? :lol:

 

It's really just not the time in Howe's career to take the England job. We know the main thing right now with Howe is he needs time with the players to get them doing what he wants and he won't get that with England.

Say no to England once and you are unlikely to be asked again, that's the FA for you.

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Somehow i have convinced myself that in the sad case that  Eddie would take the England job, we would go for Thomas Frank. And if you dont count the gum chewing, i would be fine with him.

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2 hours ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

Can England get a better English candidate.. no

Can Newcastle get a better manager.. yes 

 

Ideally if it falls that way then it could be a win, win situation for us

 

 

 

Who could we get who you think is better fit than EH for NUFC?

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7 minutes ago, Ed Vinegar said:

Difficult this. It's a job he's said he wants and there might not be a better time for him if he does get offered it. 

 

I think there's a chance of him leaving. 20%? 

 

I mean, what if he has another 8th place finish next season? The England role would be filled and his star would have dropped. 

 

I can see why he would take it if offered. I believe that he loves this club and wants to win things here, but I also think he's clever and pragmatic.

 

For the record I'd hate for him to leave.

That works both ways though, if he gets the England job and has a bit of a mare then he's not getting another job at a top club again. Southgate isn't going to be courted by Champions League level clubs and its certainly not beyond the realms of possibility that Howe would achieve less than Southgate has.

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Isn't he a workaholic though? Would be quite a character change to go for a part time job where he can't develop players or see them every day. 

 

Yeah I don't see him going for that reason above all, I'm just saying he does want the England job at some point, and there are valid reasons he could be tempted. But I also think the Newcastle job is probably his ideal club job other than geography, so I think he'll stay here.

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it'll never happen in a million years but there's some part of me that wants to see the reaction here if he came out tomorrow saying "i'd jump in a heartbeat if offered the england job" :lol:

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16 minutes ago, madras said:

Not too sure about that like.

 

Yep. I'm as big a fan of Poch as any, but his record since Spurs is patchy at best. I still think he's a top manager, but not even sure we've seen the best of Howe yet. I don't think anyone will ever be as good a public spokesman for us again.

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14 minutes ago, JJ7 said:

Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather Howe stayed as he has been great for us, and because of the upheaval it would cause. But let’s be honest and removing any bias, any top job becomes available and Poch is higher on an owners list than Howe. 

Maybe because he's had a higher profile given the jobs he's had. Right now, given the choice I'd choose Howe.

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1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

That works both ways though, if he gets the England job and has a bit of a mare then he's not getting another job at a top club again. Southgate isn't going to be courted by Champions League level clubs and its certainly not beyond the realms of possibility that Howe would achieve less than Southgate has.

You're right, but does Howe think it's outside the realms of possibility he'd achieve less than GS? Surely he'd have to think he's a better manager. He doesn't strike me as the sort of person to go into a challenge thinking he'll fail. If he'd screwed up at Newcastle it would have been the end of his career arguably, so I reckon he's comfortable taking a risk.

 

Robson is the last England manager to get a top role after leaving the FA. I reckon Howe is more likely to be basing things on his own perception of his abilities than precedent.

 

Anyway it's all speculation until he's gets an offer, I just don't think he's nailed on to turn it down if he gets asked 

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