Eddie Howe

[Matt1892]

When a club wants to change the set up behind the scenes it is likely to upset the incumbent manager, especially if it isn’t a way they want to work.

 

The difficulty for the club is how they manage the situation, they have a popular manager in place when they want a first team coach.

[Alberto2005]

I'm interested to know what Howe wants, I disagree if he's wanting to have complete control over signings. I'm not saying that's the case btw.

[KaKa]

Because of how awful Bruce was, we couldn't hire a Sporting Director prior to getting a manager in, which would have been the ideal way of going about things.

 

Howe came in first and settled into a way of working with Amanda and Mehrdad acting as defacto sporting directors, that essentially let him operate however he wanted.

 

On top of that Howe's history coming through at Bournemouth, is one where he had to take on a lot and have control over a lot of areas, and where he did delegate it was to people he was close with and knew well.

 

Ultimately, this way of working is not going to work at a bigger club, or one aiming for that kind of standard at least.

 

We'll soon find out if he is able to adjust or not. If not he'll have to work at clubs that are willing to let him run/control the whole show, and these are increasingly few and far between, and lower down the table.

[TRon]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

It does sound like Howe has his back up a little bit. 
 

Pure speculation but my gut feeling is PIF considered last season a failure and have reacted to it. We spent a lot of money in the transfer market and none of the signings had the impact of Bruno, Botman, Tripppier or Isak. A partial reason why they’ve brought in a DOF who specialises in trading more.  I think PIF accept injuries were a major cause and Bunce has been brought in to mitigate that becoming a future issue. 
 

 

From what I read Staveley was a huge advocate for Howe and they were aligned on a lot of issues (Joelinton contract for example). That’s a huge loss for him. 

 

It's understandable that Howe will have reservations, his only concern is to produce results, not look after the financials. For him, a Kieron Trippier or an Almiron are still assets on the pitch, but further up the hierarchy, if we could have got £30m for them in January, that's £30m we won't get 6 months down the line, and then we are forced to sell appreciating assets instead.

 

No one is in the wrong here, but I think for a healthy football club everyone needs to stick within their lanes and let the experts do the jobs they were hired for.

[Cf]

6 hours ago, Abacus said:

 

Yeah, I personally would prefer a set up where the manager makes all the big calls, especially if you have someone like Howe that I completely trust and has no doubt overperformed. But I'm harking back to the past with that sort of set up, and football is no doubt too big for that now.

 

Looking at your Guardiolas, Klopps, Artetas... Aren't they making all the big calls?

 

They're not some Brighton style where you can just swap the coaches in and out. They've made those teams in their images with long term projects. Yeah for sure there'll be teams behind them but they're very much in the driving seat, no? They're way more than the guy who takes training and pick the team. 

 

That's my one concern with Eales' comments about Eddie being best on the grass. I don't want us to have this mindset where the manager is an easily rotatable piece. 

[brummie]

3 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

Looking at your Guardiolas, Klopps, Artetas... Aren't they making all the big calls?

 

They're not some Brighton style where you can just swap the coaches in and out. They've made those teams in their images with long term projects. Yeah for sure there'll be teams behind them but they're very much in the driving seat, no? They're way more than the guy who takes training and pick the team. 

 

That's my one concern with Eales' comments about Eddie being best on the grass. I don't want us to have this mindset where the manager is an easily rotatable piece. 

 

They are, and I don't know about Liverpool and Arsenal, but re Guardiola, City have an enormous, slick off-pitch management organisation in place to support their manager.

 

Even they, with literally unending money, saw the importance of building a big structure to support the team.

 

One of the first things their new owners did was go out and take chunks of Barcelona's management structure and build around it.

[The Butcher]

After watching this I'm not worried at all. 

[midds]

I think there's been a lot of upheaval around the club in the last 6 months and he's still, understandably, a bit unsure as to how it's going to fit together and work over the next few months. New SD in Mitchell as well as losing 2 key allies in Staveley and Mehrdad from the board is going to have an effect. I don't think he'll go by any stretch but he's got legit concerns as to how decisions will be made and by whom. Don't blame him at all for keeping his cards close to his chest and being a bit cagey, he's just got to make sure we have a good start to the season and let the FA pick someone else

[janpawel]

46 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

Looking at your Guardiolas, Klopps, Artetas... Aren't they making all the big calls?

 

They're not some Brighton style where you can just swap the coaches in and out. They've made those teams in their images with long term projects. Yeah for sure there'll be teams behind them but they're very much in the driving seat, no? They're way more than the guy who takes training and pick the team. 

 

That's my one concern with Eales' comments about Eddie being best on the grass. I don't want us to have this mindset where the manager is an easily rotatable piece. 

Mentioned previously how Liverpool fans say their current DOF previously left them as him and Klopp didn't see eye to eye

 

He was responsible for mane, Salah, wijnaldum, fabinho, matip, selling coutinho for van Disney /Allison etc 

 

Klopp got Diaz, kept Henderson forever, nunez etc

 

Now klopp left, he has came back... 

 

A great manager doesn't mean they are great at necessarily having the football clubs at heart / moving them forwards

 

Having said this, I am NOT saying how is this brexit / must keep Wilson /Miggy type of person etc.. These are rumours at best really and we don't know how he truly thinks 

[OoOGazOoO]

Only really just caught up with the interview, the main take out from me is the sentence featuring "Working out boundaries", I imagine there is or could be something which is different to his optimal, but 'this is me telling you about it publicly'. Don't necessarily think it is a negative call out, just probably part and parcel of people departing and new people arriving. They may potentially be puffing out their feathers and trying to flex their muscle a bit, and Howe is trying to assert a bit of dominance.

 

[Andy]

Not too worried about the interview tbh. Most of what Howe has said is fairly normal given the changes directly above his head.

 

The only slightly concerning aspect to me is the suggestion that we're not sure about transfer targets/budget with only a few weeks left until the season starts. Hate seeing players come in at the backend of the transfer window, always feels like a waste of the pre-season. 

[SUPERTOON]

9 minutes ago, Andy said:

Not too worried about the interview tbh. Most of what Howe has said is fairly normal given the changes directly above his head.

 

The only slightly concerning aspect to me is the suggestion that we're not sure about transfer targets/budget with only a few weeks left until the season starts. Hate seeing players come in at the backend of the transfer window, always feels like a waste of the pre-season. 

Especially when it has been reported numerous times that the targets for this summer have been in place for ages, and a new sporting director wouldn’t affect plans. 

[The College Dropout]

Edu and Arteta seem to work together. 
 

Klopps best team he worked with Edwards on and didn’t always get his way.  
 

Guardiola has all his ex Barca lot in management. 
 

Eales made it seem like it would be a team effort. 

[Abacus]

1 hour ago, Cf said:

 

Looking at your Guardiolas, Klopps, Artetas... Aren't they making all the big calls?

 

They're not some Brighton style where you can just swap the coaches in and out. They've made those teams in their images with long term projects. Yeah for sure there'll be teams behind them but they're very much in the driving seat, no? They're way more than the guy who takes training and pick the team. 

 

That's my one concern with Eales' comments about Eddie being best on the grass. I don't want us to have this mindset where the manager is an easily rotatable piece. 

 

Agree with all of that. I guess all I'm saying is that it's a hell of a burden so he needs people around him he can trust.

 

Edit - and maybe people around him to challenge every now and again. All great managers need that from time to time 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Abacus

[Dr Jinx]

Rags saying we want Poch if Howe leaves for England job.

 

The story is going to keep going all summer.

 

I think he goes in the end.

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Rags saying we want Poch if Howe leaves for England job.

 

The story is going to keep going all summer.

 

I think he goes in the end.

If true that is the case, then he needs to go now, as we can't wait all summer with this rumbling on, only for him to go.