Eddie Howe

[mouldy_uk]

Early days, but can’t keep starting games so poorly. He’s lucky the injury curse has lifted (so far), but that’s also his main excuse gone. Hopefully we can find our groove.

 

p.s please ditch Longstaff 

[thomas]

Can't see him lasting past christmas if we're outside the top 6 by then.

[Smal]

we looked better when we stopped the 4-4-2 stuff.

 

Trippier also understands the position and role in the team far more than Livramento at the moment. Makes a big difference.

[KingArthur]

2 minutes ago, thomas said:

Can't see him lasting past christmas if we're outside the top 6 by then.

Of course he will last. We are still behind top6  in terms of quality and money. It requires us to overperform and at least one of them (ManU or Chelsea most likely) to fuck it up.

[Wandy]

Call it kneejerk all you want but my gut feeling is that he won’t be manager this time next season.

[Newcastle Fan]

We look like we've hardly been coached in the last two games, everything that was good about our play seemed to have gone away.

[Andy]

2 minutes ago, Smal said:

we looked better when we stopped the 4-4-2 stuff.

 

Trippier also understands the position and role in the team far more than Livramento at the moment. Makes a big difference.

 

Aye, I said similar in the match thread. Tino is really reluctant to overlap, he stays so deep. Kelly obviously the same on the other side too. 

 

So important in modern football for at least one of your fullbacks to be pushing the opposition back. 

[Kimbo]

I think our style of play is predictable and only really works when we’re 100%. We need to work towards a more possession based game and this should really have been addressed in the transfer market over the last 3 months. It feels like we just try to force things every time we have ball and we just end up losing it quickly.

[Smal]

Just now, Andy said:

 

Aye, I said similar in the match thread. Tino is really reluctant to overlap, he stays so deep. Kelly obviously the same on the other side too. 

 

So important in modern football for at least one of your fullbacks to be pushing the opposition back. 

I really like Tino but he was poor in all of the pre-season games I watched and has offered zero offensively in the first two games. We could really do with hanging on to Tripps this season.

[Vinny Green Balls]

3 minutes ago, Wandy said:

Call it kneejerk all you want but my gut feeling is that he won’t be manager this time next season.

Good thing your gut feeling has been a bit shit.

[cubaricho]

5 minutes ago, Smal said:

we looked better when we stopped the 4-4-2 stuff.

 

Trippier also understands the position and role in the team far more than Livramento at the moment. Makes a big difference.

 

Howe was having Tino cut waaay inside for the first half. When Tripps came on Howe had him stay wide. Changed the game and not entirely Tino's fault.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Appreciate we're managing returns to fitness etc. but he's paid the price of a very poor starting setup.

 

Whatever he's doing with Gordon needs to stop - he's a menace in space, don't plonk him in packed areas. If he's not fit enough to do the yards out left then don't start him.

[Wolfcastle]

Any manager would still have to play the players Howe has to play. That's our biggest problem by far. 

Don't think anybody can move us forward until we see the back of regularly using some of the names we all know

[Dr Jinx]

Well we were shit for very long spells last season. Lots of excuses why which I’ll reluctantly accept.

 

But so far this season we have played extremely poorly in both games, somehow managing to collect 4 points but that luck won’t last forever if we keep playing like that.

 

Are we far enough away from the days of Steve Bruce to just be able to judge a downward slide?

 

Aside from a few at the back, that was mostly a strong side out there today. We look afraid of the ball, unable to play against teams who press, no plan b seemingly. Don’t even know our best 11.

 

Last summer and this summers windows have been poor. I’ll put an asterisk on Tonali because he can be quality but 80m collectively on Tino and Hall doesn’t look like money well spent right now.

 

We’ve also splashed out 15m on someone who’s sat in the bench for 2 games when it’s been screaming out for a bit of pace and hustle.

 

I’m not screaming for his job but for fuck sake Eddie, time to do better.

 

 

Edited August 25 by Dr Jinx

[dcmk]

We were too direct first half. Looking for killer balls all the time and then having to spend the next 5 minutes in a low block, with no pressure on the ball.

 

Once Joelinton was able to turn and run through their midfield with the ball, we created decent chances.

 

They dropped off massively, maybe their fitness wasn't as good as ours, but felt we dominated second half barring one or two spells from them.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 25 by dcmk

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said:

Any manager would still have to play the players Howe has to play. That's our biggest problem by far. 

Don't think anybody can move us forward until we see the back of regularly using some of the names we all know

Not sure that he has to play Murphy tbh. Good preseason but really poor in both games that mattered.

[Upthemags]

1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said:

Any manager would still have to play the players Howe has to play. That's our biggest problem by far. 

Don't think anybody can move us forward until we see the back of regularly using some of the names we all know

The personnel Howe subbed on with 30 minutes to go instantly changed the momentum of the game. Those personnel were available to start. That's on Howe, and no one else.

[buzza]

2 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

I think our style of play is predictable and only really works when we’re 100%. We need to work towards a more possession based game and this should really have been addressed in the transfer market over the last 3 months. It feels like we just try to force things every time we have ball and we just end up losing it quickly.

If we want to play more possession based we need tripps and hall as our backs and somehow get shot of dan as centre back. I get palpitations every time he has the ball at his feet...

P.S. still love the bloke tho'

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said:

Well we were shit for very long spells last season. Lots of excuses why which I’ll reluctantly accept.

 

But so far this season we have played extremely poorly in both games, somehow managing to collect 4 points but that luck won’t last forever if we keep playing like that.

 

Are we far enough away from the days of Steve Bruce to just be able to judge a downward slide?

 

Aside from a few at the back, that was mostly a strong side out there today. We look afraid of the ball, unable to play against teams who press, no plan b seemingly. Don’t even know out best 11.

 

Last summer and this summers windows have been poor. I’ll put an asterisk on Tonali because he can be quality but 80m collectively on Tino and Hall doesn’t look like money well spent right now.

 

We’ve also splashed out 15m on someone who’s sat in the bench for 2 games when it’s been screaming out for a bit of pace and hustle.

 

I’m not screaming for his job but for fuck sake Eddie, time to do better.

We picked up barely any points October though to end of January.

 

Yet somehow 8 points away from champions league football.

 

The league is very, very competitive.  It's not a cake walk.

Especially away games.  

[80]

There really are no excuses for us to look badly prepared this season.

[Skeletor]

Just now, 80 said:

There really are no excuses for us to look badly prepared this season.

 

He hasn't made any to be fair.

[80]

7 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

He hasn't made any to be fair.

Never thought he would.

[OpenC]

42 minutes ago, dcmk said:

 

The league is very, very competitive.  It's not a cake walk.

Especially away games.  

 

I suppose it comes down to aspirations and expectation. To a degree I can understand it; whenever I heard Klopp or Pep trotting out the No Easy Games line I always felt like they were really just saying it out of a sense of humility more than anything else, because it was the right thing to say.  They would never go to Bournemouth, however tough a game, and be truly satisfied with a battling point on the road. When I hear anybody from Newcastle say it, it still feels like a way to excuse a crappy performance  

 

We're a long way from city and libpewl and I've never felt so distant from this club as I do now, so I agree that it's a tough league with few obvious weak links - I see 'no easy games' as a realistic appraisal, but I suppose for a fair few expectations have been raised these last two sessions.

 

 

Edited August 25 by OpenC

[Pata]

4 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

We’ve also splashed out 15m on someone who’s sat in the bench for 2 games when it’s been screaming out for a bit of pace and hustle.

 

[Dr Jinx]

43 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

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