Deuce Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 We’re playing relegation-level football at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If a new manager can mean we've not already played 39 games with up to another 20 to go with a tired and injury-stricken squad, I'd consider a change. I do agree with you entirely But there’s a part of me that feels we are letting ourselves down with performances like tonight even with all of the above, I think we have lost a little of the heart and soul that Eddie has carefully cultivated since he’s been here Theres no edge, there’s no fire. It’s all just very, very flat. Edited February 7 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: I hope he doesn’t tell the board that he can’t cope with European campaigns It's more trying to be competitive in 4 competitions that backfires on him and the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, dcmk said: We can't cope with a congested fixture list. He needs time at the training ground with this lot. Tongue in cheek? Can't really stand behind that when we looked just as bad when fixtures weren't congested. We knew this was coming, we were vocal about both knowing it was coming and how it hurt us last time in the CL. We were vocal about addressing that in the summer window. He and the coaching team has had plenty of time on the training field and around the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just no idea how he watched Trippier in the last two games and thought “ah, I’ll play him again”. At fault for 2 of the 3 goals. Again. As for why we started Murphy, when Elanga finally looked like he was coming into his stride, I cannot explain. Tiredness? How? Elanga has barely kicked a football all season. This is getting seriously bad. The last thing I want is for his tenure to end badly, he doesn’t deserve that but my word, I really cannot see where we get our next win from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Yorkie said: I'm not saying it does. It's the biggest thing holding us back/preventing us from improving though imo. I hope so, issue is, this could get a whole lot worse before we get some time on the training groundz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 The last time we were in the Champions league we suffered too and Howe made comments of not being about to work on the training ground much with 3 games in a week. I think it’s really showing this season. They all look clueless to a man and Howe has improved none of the new players and the ones in the squad he has improved has gone backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I hope he doesn’t tell the board that he can’t cope with European campaigns Think it’s proven now he can’t, this is a worry going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Mike said: Question for me is what the fuck is happening in the offices. One phone call first thing in the morning and then another last thing at night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, black_n_white said: Think it’s proven now he can’t, this is a worry going forward. Not for next season at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Deuce said: We’re playing relegation-level football at the moment Just looked at the table. Ridiculous to think it... but.. We have got to click again soon, right, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Look at the state of that. And this relentlessness is going to continue for a few more weeks yet. But especially three away games within 7 days to PSG, Liverpool, and City. Yeah I get that the season especially in the league is a bit shit but Eddie Howe isn't the reason for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Feels like history repeating to me. @cherryred describing Howe when he joined NUFC, for those who haven’t seen it before… He's very meticulous in his approach to tactics which led to us playing some absolutely stunning beautiful football at times, but in his latter days he did show a bit of an unwillingness to change style and personel which held us a back a bit. He takes his time with new signings so I wouldn't necessarily expect to see any January transfers walk straight into the team. He usually took a good 6 months at least to bed a player into the setup before he trusted them in the starting 11. One thing I'm really interested in is how he deals with your board. At Bournemouth he was known for being a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club (think SAF at man u or Wenger at Arsenal), and one of the rumoured reasons why he left when we went down was that our board tried to change some of that and he basically walked. I'm not sure how this will translate to your current circumstance and how much Eddie has chnaged in this regard over his long break from football, as his obsessiveness and full effort definitely contributed to his downfall at the end of his time with us. Edited February 7 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Not for next season at least. Where does it end, he performs next season with no European competition, then it’s rinse and repeat the season after? Edited February 7 by black_n_white Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, dcmk said: It's more trying to be competitive in 4 competitions that backfires on him and the team. Agreed, it isn’t easy given the relative squad size - but he also hasn’t learned anything from the previous campaign. An obvious example would be Bradford (H) in the league cup this season. We’re as close to the relegation zone as the CL places Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Maybe he was just the gate keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Was Steve Bruce actually that bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 6 minutes ago, sempuki said: He looks out of ideas. Can only assume at this stage it's do more crosses and buy more athletes who can't pass a ball. If he's sat on some wild creative ideas we've not seen yet, now is the time to give them a shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said: Just no idea how he watched Trippier in the last two games and thought “ah, I’ll play him again”. At fault for 2 of the 3 goals. Again. As for why we started Murphy, when Elanga finally looked like he was coming into his stride, I cannot explain. Tiredness? How? Elanga has barely kicked a football all season. This is getting seriously bad. The last thing I want is for his tenure to end badly, he doesn’t deserve that but my word, I really cannot see where we get our next win from. I suppose because we play away at Tottenham Tuesday, then Villa away at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Cf said: This. 1000 times this. I find these reactions absolutely baffling. Think it's fairly obvious our squad just can't cope with this amount of fixtures. But in terms of play and performance, did the tough fixture list drain us in August. If this had been a dip since December I would agree, unfortunately it is not. Started bad, many did say it would click soon. Then it’s the fixtures. There is always excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) He’s been unable to cope with European football on top of a league campaign on both occasions he’s had a go. Whether that’s lack of coaching time (not a valid excuse as that comes with the territory sadly), the physical demands he puts on the team, inability to be tactically flexible or to rotate a squad properly or whatever other reason we can come up with. I want him to show he is capable of this but the evidence says otherwise. The signings this summer have hindered rather than helped us I feel. It’s hard to imagine we could have spent the money we did and come out with the players we signed. I’d say rip the squad apart and rebuild, but after last summer fuck would I trust those same people to get it right. Edited February 7 by Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, Cf said: I find these reactions absolutely baffling. I find it baffling calling it baffling. Im not Howe out, but there will be reactions after a game like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Never got going the entire season. I think he's tried to rotate more, but we just look totally disjointed and easy to play against as no XI gets rhythm together. His in game management has been woeful too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 What we are seeing is what happens when you buy system players and the system stops working. Someone coming on and just going back to basics would get more from the squad in the short term, even if it would be by far worse in the long term. You also have to wonder just what happened in the summer, Isak leaving does seem to have damaged something and it's more than just a player going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Looking at the fixtures I'm not sure he'll see March. The brutal run continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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