bobbydazzla Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Myleftboot said: I know Mourinho’s old now but christ he’s won shit tons. Cliff Richard’s sold loads of records but I’m not going to see the cunt in concert in 2026 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Beren said: No offence, but based on what? Howe has had gimme games over the course of multiple seasons with a fit squad and an uncongested fixture list, and he's never deviated far from outworking the opposition. Even this year in the CL against dross, when we were less injured/fatigued, how did we win? It's just his style. I don't want him to go (*unless we win the managerial lottery) and he remains a fantastic ambassador for the club, but I just don't see what supports your statement that I've seen with my eyes. Just seems like wishcasting. I really did think today would give us a chance to show our stuff since we weren't playing a top tier team who would just outplay us. But they actually played slicker football. I'm sure they don't have better footballers so it has got to be the way we are setting up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I don't want to him to go, but on the other hand I'm not sure if he'll ever fix our glaring problems. Space behind our midfield and our quality in possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 16 minutes ago, Cf said: This is such a boring point to have to repeatedly make but I'll say it again: Put Howe in charge of Arsenal and you'll find he can manage all the extra games perfectly well. Put Arteta in charge of us and you'll find he can't. It's not hard. There is no proof to this either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: In regard to hypothetical managerial wishes personally if we can’t get Tuchel I’d take a punt on either Hoeneß or Fabregas. Tuchel would be great tbh, and I'm not sure there will be a huge amount of competition there. Whilst I think the powers that be will go to Jose, I've said before that Ancelotti would be my choice for an elder statesman. On the fence with Nagglesman so either Tuchel or Fabregas would be great as the next move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, bobbydazzla said: Cliff Richard’s sold loads of records but I’m not going to see the cunt in concert in 2026 Jose’s not a nonce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, gdm said: Mixed feelings personally don’t want him to go but at same time excited at the prospect of someone new and a new way of playing. Still have hope he’ll turn it around and with no Europe next season it should be much better For me someone needs to come in and have a fresh look at this squad and what’s needed - Sadly I don’t trust Howe can be as ruthless as he has to be - we need MAJOR surgery in the summer - the likes of Trippier, Schar, Burn, J Murphy, Willock, Osula and even like of Wissa have to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: But that’s still thinking like we have no agency. Surely the management team knows that before signing players. If the system is rigid, surely you get your nephew to track players with a similar profile to Isak (even if they aren’t as good). Woltemade isn’t even close to being similar. Why the fuck would you sign a player knowing full well he can’t play in that system and then refuse to adapt to it? It’s borderline negligent. It would be like a long ball team replacing their massive centre forward with a midget. I think their thinking would have been: 1. Wissa is the Isak replacement. We tried for other targets but in terms of profile this is as similar as we could get. Somebody who runs in behind, and has a good PL goalscoring record. We spent £55m on a 28 year old, that’s how important we thought he was going to be. 2. Woltemade is a young player brought in to develop, and enable the team to evolve into a side that controls games more in the future. Not necessarily a signing for this season which is fine, because Wissa is supposed to be the short term and immediate solution. Wissa being both injured and abject has scuppered both signings to an enormous degree. Edited February 7 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I don’t want him out, but he needs to show something between now and the end of the season that suggests he has learnt and we are improving. If it continues as it is then I may think differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Beren said: No offence, but based on what? Howe has had gimme games over the course of multiple seasons with a fit squad and an uncongested fixture list, and he's never deviated far from outworking the opposition. Even this year in the CL against dross, when we were less injured/fatigued, how did we win? It's just his style. I don't want him to go (*unless we win the managerial lottery) and he remains a fantastic ambassador for the club, but I just don't see what supports your statement that I've seen with my eyes. Just seems like wishcasting. But that's a function of the he squad he has available to him isn't it? We ended up getting second/third choices for so many if our summer transfers that I don't read too much into it. I'm pinning my hopes on us having our backroom sorted and getting some technical and less sought out players early in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: The system Eddie plays is all about the full backs, and we have a good LB, and right an utter liability at RB, and Trippier is killing us. Aye we should have bought a RB, but we didn't if we believe what the club are saying about availability and value in the winter market. Trippier is really hanging out Thiaw to dry with the way he’s been paying these last few games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Jose’s not a nonce. Thanks for the info, I’ll let him babysit my bairns Edited February 7 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I honestly think even the most foaming at the mouth Howe-outter would regret having ever wanting him out within a year - if that - of someone else coming in. I also think the belief that no one on the planet other than Eddie Howe can manage us is ludicrous tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Lose midweek and we’ll have an answer to the question as to whether the owners are ruthless, if they are, he’ll be in big trouble (rightly or wrongly). I still expect and want him to see out the season but that’s getting really precarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Tuchel would be great tbh, and I'm not sure there will be a huge amount of competition there. Whilst I think the powers that be will go to Jose, I've said before that Ancelotti would be my choice for an elder statesman. On the fence with Nagglesman so either Tuchel or Fabregas would be great as the next move Jose would be a terrible mistake. He'd be following a fan favourite and probably a popular manager in the dressing room. He'd be on a hiding to nothing even before he stepped through the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, TRC said: There is no proof to this either way. Obviously. But ask yourself if Howe was in charge of Arsenal do you think they'd be 12th in the PL? If Arteta was in charge of us do you think we'd be top of the the league/CL? I'm merely pointing out they they vastly different levels of squads available to them. This isn't a controversial point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, TRon said: I really did think today would give us a chance to show our stuff since we weren't playing a top tier team who would just outplay us. But they actually played slicker football. I'm sure they don't have better footballers so it has got to be the way we are setting up. A lot of it will be fatigue vs rest. A nice reliable team vs a team constantly playing, changing, picking up injuries. Confidence vs no confidence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Myleftboot said: I know Mourinho’s old now but christ he’s won shit tons. I think the chances of Mourinho succeeding here are far lower than him failing. It seems almost like a laughable appointment at this stage of his career. He does obviously still bring some upsides though. I doubt there is anyone on here that doesnt secretly have a small part of them that would love to see him come here and succeed. - He will be respected and has a proven record of winning. - He will still be a draw for players - He does have a connection to the club and will probably want this more than some other positions he has taken. - He will likely play football our fanbase craves. Downsides - Seems 10 years too late - Falls out with everyone, could see this with players, fans and higher brass when the board are slow at communicating. I think he would be about the same risk level as a Glasner, Maresca or Iraola. Very few managers come without risks though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, Erikse said: I was replying to a post where you talked about how much difference 2 more games makes. We could have offset some of that difference by rotating more in the cup. Even if we went out, were we really going to beat the top teams in the semis and final after our december and january schedule, with those 2 extra games in the CL that you yourself talked about? Ah got you, apologies mate. FWIW, i do think Eddie has got the rotation of the squad wrong, and something i think is quite clear, he doesn't really like using youngsters during an injury crisis, and i think is oversight on his part. I mean Miley has proved if you're good enough you'll play, and Eddie must see that himself by Miley's example. The RB area with a clearly out of form, and liability in Trippier, would playing Shahar for instance be any worse ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: I also think the belief that no one on the planet other than Eddie Howe can manage us is ludicrous tbh. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I totally agree that people shouldn't be expected to name players when someone says "who should we get then?", but that it absolutely applies to managers. Of the managers I've seen suggested they've either shown or proved nothing more than Howe has, and/or they're fantastical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Cf said: Obviously. But ask yourself if Howe was in charge of Arsenal do you think they'd be 12th in the PL? If Arteta was in charge of us do you think we'd be top of the the league/CL? I'm merely pointing out they they vastly different levels of squads available to them. This isn't a controversial point We weren't playing Arsenal today were we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Cliff Richard’s sold loads of records but I’m not going to see the cunt in concert in 2026 Brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Cf said: Obviously. But ask yourself if Howe was in charge of Arsenal do you think they'd be 12th in the PL? If Arteta was in charge of us do you think we'd be top of the the league/CL? I'm merely pointing out they they vastly different levels of squads available to them. This isn't a controversial point What the fuck is this point? May as well ask if we had Barcelona’s team and manager, would we play in Spain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy74 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Not a chance he gets sacked this season. Thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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