Eddie Howe

[Kilcline]

2 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

I really despise the anti-football kick off he does where we just punt it out for a throw in and give possession away the first kick of the game. Sets the tone and something even Tony Pulis would be embarrassed to do 10 years go but it’s seen as a lot more acceptable now. 
 

It’s something a lot of managers did start of the season but quickly realised it didn’t really work yet Howe persists with it.

 

Kinda encapsulates Howe’s mentality where he will just keep hammering plan A in the hope it works eventually. 

 

 

 

It's only seen as acceptable because PSG were doing it last year so naturally it's hailed as genius that we must all follow.

 

Leicester were doing it fairly regularly the season they won the league, 10 years ago funnily enough, and no-one gave a bollocks.

 

I don't mind the act itself, the trouble from our perspective is that we're trying to manufacture an opportunity to press, so if I'm the opponent I'd just throw it back up towards the halfway line and let us have the ball back because I know we're probably going to do nothing with it, playing against us is hardly 4D chess 

[Holmesy]

6 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

I really despise the anti-football kick off he does where we just punt it out for a throw in and give possession away the first kick of the game. Sets the tone and something even Tony Pulis would be embarrassed to do 10 years go but it’s seen as a lot more acceptable now. 
 

It’s something a lot of managers did start of the season but quickly realised it didn’t really work yet Howe persists with it.

 

Kinda encapsulates Howe’s mentality where he will just keep hammering plan A in the hope it works eventually. 
 

I think most the Eddie Howe out crowd just don’t believe he will truly revolutionise his system over the summer and I’ve personally not seen any evidence from Howe that he is willing to. Even at the weekend he was talking about just needing to execute better. 

 

 

 

It's either this or they think we'll return to the football that won us the cup but with different players. Personally, I think the latter has been found out so the only option is the former. If we give him the summer's budget again and he signs more non-technical athletes though, it seriously hampers whoever comes next. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[Jesse Pinkman]

5 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

It's only seen as acceptable because PSG were doing it last year so naturally it's hailed as genius that we must all follow.

 

Leicester were doing it fairly regularly the season they won the league, 10 years ago funnily enough, and no-one gave a bollocks.

 

I don't mind the act itself, the trouble from our perspective is that we're trying to manufacture an opportunity to press, so if I'm the opponent I'd just throw it back up towards the halfway line and let us have the ball back because I know we're probably going to do nothing with it, playing against us is hardly 4D chess 

We are playing Crystal Palace’s B team just get the ball down and out play them but I understand Howe can’t really achieve that tactically so he has to hope the press will work. 
 

A tactic suitable for a Burnley or Leeds but not a team looking to compete with the likes of Liverpool, Barcelona etc in the Champions League. 
 

It reminds me of the old England teams where we had good grafters but no technical players which meant we always got dominated by the continental teams. Of course England set up St George’s Park and invested a lot in training young talent in the technical aspects of the game and now we are better and more consistent than ever. 

 

 

Edited April 13 by Jesse Pinkman

[TRC]

I wonder what his appetite is like for next season. If this season was on Footie Manager I’d just start a new game.

 

Goalkeeper situation is a mess

defence 3 stalwarts aged out or leaving. 
midfield is broken although I think this is solvable

wingers a mess

strikers a mess.

 

Knowing you are probably getting sacked if you don’t turn this round is tough.

[Wolfcastle]

6 hours ago, St1pe said:

I do wish as a fan base we could just take this shit season on the chin and not collectively piss the bed over it. For me Howe deserves more time and another window (hopefully the board improve on what was signed last season).

 

Some of the shit that’s been said about Howe has been pathetic. We won a cup and qualified for the Champions League last year and one mid-table season has season has sent some of you lot west. It’s the same sorts of people of made up mad stuff about Gordon and Tonali. Slating them claiming they wanted to be away but don’t seem capable of loyalty in return to someone who’s deserved it. 
 

For the record this season has been shit, the football has been miserable and we’ve suffered constant morale crushing results at key times. Rarely have we put teams away or chained good feeling. It’s been utterly deflating and Howe takes a good chunk of the blame too. 
 

Give the bloke a chance to redeem it though because he’s surely deserves a shot. 

If it was just about one season and we'll be back to standard next season then everyone could take it on the chin but absolutely nobody knows that and there's a lot more evidence that were not getting back there than there is suggesting we will. 

Its rarely about a current season but the future why people start questioning. If you think next season's going to be fine then we'd have been fine with every manager. 

We took Dalglish and Gullit on the chin more than Sir Bobby's last full season because we expected the following seasons to be better not worse for all Sir Bobby's season was a lot better than either of theirs other on its own merit.

 

 

Edited April 13 by Wolfcastle

[Whitley mag]

We’re usually slow starters to the season, so in a scenario where we finish this season poorly as looks nailed on, what happens if we start next season shite and Howe’s been backed in the summer? 
 

We’ll be in a position where we’ve given him the benefit of doubt and then plunged into crisis by October. 
 

Appointing a new manager is a risky business but should Howe finish the season poorly, I thinks it’s equally risky sticking with him.  
 

My take remains if he finishes this season poorly as per yesterdays performance, I want a new manager and fresh start this summer.

[SUPERTOON]

Aye, my stance has somewhat shifted, as it stands I want him in for next season, however I do think we need to see some big improvements over the last games. 

[huss9]

i honestly couldnt give a shit any more either way.

this weekend has been a killer.

fans are gonna struggle to get up for the bournemouth game and unless Bruno plays i think there's even less chance we get some passion from the players.

[Andy]

2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Copied PSG with it i think. Not a fan either. 

 

It's probably good if you have 11 top notch, intense players who can squeeze the life out of teams and benefit from gaining immediate territory high up the pitch like PSG. Not so good for basically anyone else. 

[Weezertron]

I wanted him to get next season before the game at the weekend, and that’s still my stance. One more shit game in a shit season full of shit games isn’t going to make me 180.

 

however putting aside all of the clubs failings in the past few years that have majorly contributed to this downturn, I can acknowledge that Eddie hasn’t been great in his role of coach. Doesn’t seem to be learning anymore, despite spending a lot of his press conferences telling us otherwise.
 

The team he has right now is capable of playing an OK brand of football. I’m not expecting the world. So he needs to deliver that. Don’t care about the league position. Just start developing a style of football now, so we don’t have to start from scratch in the summer. 

 

 

Edited April 13 by Weezertron

[The Prophet]

I didn't watch it myself, but it was quite startling to hear that we played with a lack of intensity again.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, The Prophet said:

I didn't watch it myself, but it was quite startling to hear that we played with a lack of intensity again.

Especially if you consider the line up was picked with those very strengths.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 hour ago, TRC said:

I wonder what his appetite is like for next season. If this season was on Footie Manager I’d just start a new game.

 

Goalkeeper situation is a mess

defence 3 stalwarts aged out or leaving. 
midfield is broken although I think this is solvable

wingers a mess

strikers a mess.

 

Knowing you are probably getting sacked if you don’t turn this round is tough.

It’s likely no harder than anything he’d face at a new club TBH.

 

First choice back four and most of first choice midfield are here. Probably just need one quality midfielder to sort it. New keeper is just one good signing. 
 

Attack is the hardest. 

 

 

Edited April 13 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Robster]

31 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Aye, my stance has somewhat shifted, as it stands I want him in for next season, however I do think we need to see some big improvements over the last games. 

I think this is perfectly fair and reasonable.

As a fanbase, we need to show some patience and not simply expect everything to be perfect and wonderful every single season. 

I get that it's difficult to handle when the time under Eddie has been so good, we are all hating the current situation, but I genuinely think we'll come out of it for the better if we just hold our nerve.

[Ben]

 

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, Ben said:

 

 

 

He also said the same of Steve Bruce tbf.

[SUPERTOON]

 

[The College Dropout]

27 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It’s likely no harder than anything he’d face at a new club TBH.

 

First choice back four and most of first choice midfield are here. Probably just need one quality midfielder to sort it. New keeper is just one good signing. 
 

Attack is the hardest. 

 

 

 

That back 5 needs 2 new leaders. Think Trafford would be great but that’s a fragile spirited back 5 imo. 
 

We need 2 ball players to go into the front 6.  The types every team in the top 8 would want and need.  
 

And we’ll probably need to replace some midfield power and legs soon too. 

[TRC]

33 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It’s likely no harder than anything he’d face at a new club TBH.

 

First choice back four and most of first choice midfield are here. Probably just need one quality midfielder to sort it. New keeper is just one good signing. 
 

Attack is the hardest. 

 

 

 

That first choice back 4 is not good as a unit imo

[llcoolc157]

As things stand today I’m all for having Eddie in charge next season… 

We know this season has been a mess from start to finish, and we need to draw a line under it… 

For the first time ever I’m in 2 minds on how beneficial it would be to qualify for a Europa place next season… never thought I’d say that but that’s how I feel…

Ownership and end of season transfers aside, right now it’s the players who are underperforming that need to be held accountable and Eddie must address this.. I don’t believe for one minute they’re not aware of players personal intentions..

I think we’re not far from a 2016 Lascelles scenario where someone gets all the players together, looks them in the eye and demands a response… and if theyre thinking of fucking off get on with it..

[Mattoon]

I have mostly kept my head down in the aftermath of yesterday, while I let the emotions settle. It feels like this whole season has been waiting for something, waiting for Wissa to come back, waiting for Livramento and Hall to come back, waiting for the games to slow down, waiting for Bruno to come back, when ultimately it's just fundamentally not working. I have backed Howe to the hilt from day one, unwavering, he has proven time and time again he can turn it around, he has given me my best ever day as an NUFC supporter which brought a grown man to tears, he's overachieved time and time again and squeezed every last ounce of talent out of remarkably talentless players. But this feels slightly different, we have too many players playing well below their own standards, be that from aging, injury or just what appears to be checking out. The issues are obvious on the pitch, they've been discussed to death, but it is immediately worrying that they continue to happen week after week and even more so after a 3 week break and two humiliating defeats in a row, if there was a time for the players to be up for it, it was yesterday.

 

I do think if we get rid of Howe now then we will regret it, for me he still has a lot of credit in the bank and deserves a full preseason and a solid transfer window conducted by people who get paid to do just that, but it's going to have to be a busy transfer window for us to move forward I think, we've been stagnant for too long and too many players are past their sell by date or overstayed their welcome, there's only 3 players for me that are untouchable this summer, anyone else I am happy to see moved on in the interest of progression.

 

I think Howe is finding it hard to see the forest for the trees right now and perhaps himself needs the season to end to wipe the slate and go again.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

We’re usually slow starters to the season, so in a scenario where we finish this season poorly as looks nailed on, what happens if we start next season shite and Howe’s been backed in the summer? 
 

We’ll be in a position where we’ve given him the benefit of doubt and then plunged into crisis by October. 
 

Appointing a new manager is a risky business but should Howe finish the season poorly, I thinks it’s equally risky sticking with him.  
 

My take remains if he finishes this season poorly as per yesterdays performance, I want a new manager and fresh start this summer.

 

 

Tbh, the only reason I want Howe to remain in charge at this point is

 

a) To give him the benefit of the doubt

b) To give the next guy a fighting chance

 

If we sack him, whoever replaces him will have a big section of fans still pining for Eddie. I can understand why one bad season shouldn't be held against him considering what he's done. But I do worry that he's taken us as far as he can, and we might just compound the errors if he gets another crack. 

[Heron]

13 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

I have mostly kept my head down in the aftermath of yesterday, while I let the emotions settle. It feels like this whole season has been waiting for something, waiting for Wissa to come back, waiting for Livramento and Hall to come back, waiting for the games to slow down, waiting for Bruno to come back, when ultimately it's just fundamentally not working. I have backed Howe to the hilt from day one, unwavering, he has proven time and time again he can turn it around, he has given me my best ever day as an NUFC supporter which brought a grown man to tears, he's overachieved time and time again and squeezed every last ounce of talent out of remarkably talentless players. But this feels slightly different, we have too many players playing well below their own standards, be that from aging, injury or just what appears to be checking out. The issues are obvious on the pitch, they've been discussed to death, but it is immediately worrying that they continue to happen week after week and even more so after a 3 week break and two humiliating defeats in a row, if there was a time for the players to be up for it, it was yesterday.

 

I do think if we get rid of Howe now then we will regret it, for me he still has a lot of credit in the bank and deserves a full preseason and a solid transfer window conducted by people who get paid to do just that, but it's going to have to be a busy transfer window for us to move forward I think, we've been stagnant for too long and too many players are past their sell by date or overstayed their welcome, there's only 3 players for me that are untouchable this summer, anyone else I am happy to see moved on in the interest of progression.

 

I think Howe is finding it hard to see the forest for the trees right now and perhaps himself needs the season to end to wipe the slate and go again.

Who are your three out of curiosity

[Mattoon]

1 minute ago, Heron said:

Who are your three out of curiosity

Hall, Bruno and Miley

[Decky]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

 

Hate seeing this stuff. Really hope he turns it round.