dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, Whitley mag said: That we should part ways with Howe in the summer. There’s no chance he’s turning this around and delaying the inevitable is going to cost us big style next season. He's turned situations around in past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I don't have double standards, man. I really am loathe to open this can of worms again but my view is that our whole season has been designed to fail by the financial structures we're beholden too. Throw on top of that the virtually unmanageable schedule (for a squad of our size), relentless injuries to critical players and Wissa's absolutely disastrous output and the domestic campaign has just never got going. Now we're facing a perfect storm of confidence being in tatters + nothing tangible to play for, meaning the relaxed schedule is literally too little, too late. Howe isn't unaccountable but (to repeat my original point) he isn't the architect of the downfall; he's just failed to halt the slide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 11 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I don't have double standards, man. I really am loathe to open this can of worms again but my view is that our whole season has been designed to fail by the financial structures we're beholden too. Throw on top of that the virtually unmanageable schedule (for a squad of our size), relentless injuries to critical players and Wissa's absolutely disastrous output and the domestic campaign has just never got going. Now we're facing a perfect storm of confidence being in tatters + nothing tangible to play for, meaning the relaxed schedule is literally too little, too late. Howe isn't unaccountable but (to repeat my original point) he isn't the architect of the downfall; he's just failed to halt the slide. I agree with most of this and it's definitely been a bad hand been given or compounding issues which ultimately stem from 3 or 4 windows of financial restriction/older players no longer at the required level and academy prospects still yet to be at the managers standard to get meaningful minutes. The issue with any issue if you dig for it a portion of most issues or problems can go the managers way if your head let it. Big spends on players meant we didn't spread the money we did have to bolster the squad to cope with 3 games a week. A massive dollop of hindsight has indicated the signings have done nothing to elevate the 1st 11 from it's peak and now appears to have taken us backwards these are Eddie signed off/approved players how far down the list they were/ was he told its player X or no one we have no idea but it still makes this his squad he's assembled. The old pros getting a year older and not factoring their ability to go again and again and not expecting a quality drop off that comes with age. Allowing targett to go with no replacement who had been shite I know when Lewis hall was coming back from injury end of last season and BDB had been shite at LB doesnt appear to have been a wise decision. Not sure Eddie can take 100% for this but he was at least in part of the decision to accept it. The above isnt me finding the smoking gun to make Howe responsible its just a couple of examples of Howe being part of issues which have affected our season. To be fair to the manager I love that when pressed on this he's publicly said we make no excuses and doesn't complain about the squad or resources etc. The biggest issue which you have alluded to yourself is when he says stuff like he doesn't know what the issue is and these things work themselves out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 The three i want to keep at this club is Bruno, Hall and above all else Eddie Howe. Shit season and alot of strange decisions, but i got the feeling starting over with some random buzz of the month coach won't help. Eddie is the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, Whitley mag said: That we should part ways with Howe in the summer. There’s no chance he’s turning this around and delaying the inevitable is going to cost us big style next season. There's a section of the support that are neither on the fence and are fully aware of what a terrible end to the season we're having, but would like Howe to be here for any rebuild. I probably fall into that camp, mainly because I don't think a managerial change will move the needle that much. Especially this summer, where we're probably at the back of the queue behind Real, Chelsea Man United, along with potentially City and Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 This season, though a bit flat now, has been frantic and exhausting as we went through that hectic spell playing more competitive games than any other club in Europe. Even as fans we were exhausted, it was intense for the players though most got enforced breaks at some point. For Howe and his staff it was just relentless. I honestly don't know how he did it and always stayed positive. I hope he enjoys a good break close season and comes back ready to take us further again, and struggle to think of anyone better suited to lead NUFC through what will be a huge season ahead. But if he does leave, we'd better face up to it, it will be for a big club . I think I'd be close to tears watching him being interviewed after winning something with Man U, Chelsea, Tottenham or the likes. Best and most successful manager for a generation, someone who we took to our hearts as he took the city and region to his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) Play 4-4-2! I dare you Eddie. Edited April 25 by La Parka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, RS said: Support the team. Not the regime. Only went during Ashley to meet me mates. Better than shopping with our lass. Etc. It was inevitable that we’d end up with sections of a support base with delusional aspirations. And still none of them can name a valid replacement. Sorry, I’m a bit lost. How does that second paragraph ‘inevitably’ follow on from the first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Hovagod said: Sorry, I’m a bit lost. How does that second paragraph ‘inevitably’ follow on from the first? Because the 'support the team not the regime' types were / are fucking stupid, perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Dr.Spaceman said: Because the 'support the team not the regime' types were / are fucking stupid, perhaps? Well, possibly. But how does still going to the match when Ashley was around also mean they have delusional aspirations now? You can’t have it both ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Hovagod said: Well, possibly. But how does still going to the match when Ashley was around also mean they have delusional aspirations now? You can’t have it both ways. Because they're stupid, they don't think about things beyond a surface level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hovagod said: Sorry, I’m a bit lost. How does that second paragraph ‘inevitably’ follow on from the first? The first was a piss take reply to OC’s post based on excuses for putting money into Ashley’s coffers during his abuse of the club. The second part wasn’t linked to the first. I hope that is all the information you need. Edited April 25 by RS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianbeany Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 6 hours ago, RS said: It hasn’t been terrible like. It’s been poor. I think it's been terribly poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 hours ago, La Parka said: Play 4-4-2! I dare you Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 This lineup man, what the fuck. i might look like a fool after full time, but looks absolutely wank and uninspiring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 7 minutes ago, High Five o said: This lineup man, what the fuck. i might look like a fool after full time, but looks absolutely wank and uninspiring. It’s the Jedi mind trick of team selections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 11 minutes ago, High Five o said: This lineup man, what the fuck. i might look like a fool after full time, but looks absolutely wank and uninspiring. It's Howe showing the players who's in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 First time team news has been leaked under him? Appears to be another nail it has to be said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Pixelphish said: First time team news has been leaked under him? Appears to be another nail it has to be said. Why? Is it Howe's fault that someone else decided to leak the team news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Infinitely Content said: Why? Is it Howe's fault that someone else decided to leak the team news? No, but it's never a good sign of a happy dressing room either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 8 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: It’s the Jedi mind trick of team selections 5 subs in the first minute to assert dominance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Heads gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Quando sono solo e sogno all'orizzonte e mancan le parole... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Too stubborn for his own good. Keep hammering the same tactical square peg into that round hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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