gbandit Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: This Wilson thing is now a major issue, really disappointed in Howe TBH. There are changes I’d like to see, Burn <> Targett Miggy <> Murphy (I actually wouldn’t expect much from Murphy but Almiron could do with a rest and Murphy’s sub performances recently have shown he offers something different and that he’s in form Trippier <> Manquillo (if only to give Trippier a breather) All of the above changes are arguable, especially as Targett is coming back after a long injury lay-off. If he’d been match fit I’ve have played Targett weeks ago though. What’s not arguable and hasn’t been for weeks is: Wilson <> Isak It absolutely has to happen next week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Big decisions didn't work out today, for sure. Kept faith with Wilson who rewarded him with an abject all-round display capped off with an embarrassingly bad attempt on the big chance that fell to him. Then Isak looked really sharp when he did some on. Neither Gordon or Almiron offered anything going forward after ASM was unlucky to be dropped. Burn got another game at LB and looked again very much like a big CB playing out of position with the way Foden just glided by him. That said, I'm not sure Targett is fit enough to start and there was a definite logic in playing two wingers who excel at pressing. Starting Wilson was the only decision that was really bad IMO. Next week will tell us a lot. I can see why he didn't want to change much before a cup final or an away game with Man City but we've been toothless for a while and with two games we'll be favoured in coming up we need to figure it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Big Joe out for 2 now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 No issue with Howe other than the loyalty to Wilson and to a lesser extent Almiron. If today doesn't justify removing the former from the starting line-up I'll be questioning his judgement. We're still playing mostly decent football, we just can't put the fucking thing in the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: It’s football. It’s about scoring goals. consistently getting huge chances to score goals but missing them suggests that not everything is wrong then, but you already know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: consistently getting huge chances to score goals but missing them suggests that not everything is wrong then, but you already know that. You were playing that tune weeks ago. 3 games and 3 2-0 defeats later you can surely see there’s a massive issue? Never said everything was wrong. We’ve got a fine team in places. He’s getting all of the big calls wrong now, though. Wilson over Isak, not giving Almiron a rest. ASM once again benched in the type of game he’s perfect for… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Too many players off the boil at the moment, Miggy's purple patch elevating us above our station, but with him inevitably dropping off we needed one of our strikers to pick up the slack. Tripper looks a shadow of his pre-world cup self, Bruno has struggled recently too. For all the slating Murphy and Lascelles have got they have actually come in and done a job, maybe we do need to give some fringe players some time on the pitch and rest some obviously jaded, possibly complacent starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: You were playing that tune weeks ago. 3 games and 3 2-0 defeats later you can surely see there’s a massive issue? Never said everything was wrong. We’ve got a fine team in places. He’s getting all of the big calls wrong now, though. Wilson over Isak, not giving Almiron a rest. ASM once again benched in the type of game he’s perfect for… Erm... Another Ronald special Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: You were playing that tune weeks ago. 3 games and 3 2-0 defeats later you can surely see there’s a massive issue? Never said everything was wrong. We’ve got a fine team in places. He’s getting all of the big calls wrong now, though. Wilson over Isak, not giving Almiron a rest. ASM once again benched in the type of game he’s perfect for… To Liverpool, Man United, and Man City? Nah, not really. The finishing is a big issue, but I don't buy for a second that the issue extends beyond that, or that the remedy is anything other than better finishing, perhaps with fatigue being a factor. Wilson now needs to be dropped for sure, the other calls are totally justifiable. Edited March 4, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Burn ruins our left side and Almiron our right side in attack atm. We're desperate for a change. Hope he can see it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, toon25 said: Erm... Another Ronald special Where did I say everything was wrong? The club is blessed in a lot of areas - for now. If you can’t distinguish between that and manager getting the big decisions wrong it’s not my problem, Brains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Yorkie said: No issue with Howe other than the loyalty to Wilson and to a lesser extent Almiron. If today doesn't justify removing the former from the starting line-up I'll be questioning his judgement. We're still playing mostly decent football, we just can't put the fucking thing in the net. I think this is fair and balanced but honestly, he needs to be more proactive than this, Wilson’s been shite for months… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: I think this is fair and balanced but honestly, he needs to be more proactive than this, Wilson’s been shite for months… It's also a little bit of a worry if he's going to manage us in Europe. We're definitely not going to be able to play the same team every game so he needs to be able to rotate successfully. Edited March 4, 2023 by Gallowgate Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, NEEJ said: Nee surprise at all to see Pilko liking this post, like. Seriously, man - fuck off. fuck off yourself, if you've got an axe to grind with me personally send me a PM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) He is not the type to change things quickly. You can call the line up. You can call the subs and the window he’ll make them in. I thought Nketiah looked dangerous when he was on his barren run. Gets dropped for Trossard and the goals start flowing again. Eddie would’ve persisted with Nketiah in this example. Edited March 4, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Howe said in the week that Isak was close but not quite there yet which is probably why he didn't start today. Any players signed by Howe have been introduced over several games, Gordon hasn't really had that luxury and I think he'll get better. Some of our players have played nearly every game so something had to give Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Burn ruins our left side and Almiron our right side in attack atm. We're desperate for a change. Hope he can see it as well. Hate inverted wingers. Left footer left wing right footer right wing. Simples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Where did I say everything was wrong? The club is blessed in a lot of areas - for now. If you can’t distinguish between that and manager getting the big decisions wrong it’s not my problem, Brains. Keep backpedaling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 It’s not clear to me that Howe got it wrong today like. We should’ve scored at least 2 goals and the ones we let in were soft. Man City are amazing. The miss from Wilson was terrible, and maybe Isak scores it. But apart from that you can see logic behind Howe’s decisions. I hope to see ASM, Isak and Targett play in the next couple. But this was a game where you can understand going for grafters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: He is not the type to change things quickly. You can call the line up. You can call the subs and the window he’ll make them in. I thought Nketiah looked dangerous when he was on his barren run. Gets dropped for Trossard and the goals start flowing again. Eddie would’ve persisted with Nketiah in this example. Massively harsh We really don’t have the sample size for this kind of conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Myleftboot said: Hate inverted wingers. Left footer left wing right footer right wing. Simples. Shame almost every team in the world disagrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 For me, the system has to change, even if only temporarily until we can regain some confidence. 3 goals in our last 8 league games and we've struggled to test the keeper in most. We need to stop playing right footers on the left and left footers on the right as they're extremely one-footed players. They will run to the byline only to turn back onto their stronger foot and by then the attack is pretty much gone and we play it backwards or in to Bruno. ASM gets doubled up on down the left more often than not now and we aren't getting Almiron through on goal anymore down the right. Teams have sussed our style of play and we aren't adapting. There's something very Southgate about it in my opinion with the lack of a plan B. Over the next couple of games I would say play Isak or one of ASM/Gordon in a 10 role, Almiron wide left with Targett overlapping and one of Gordon/ASM on the right, with Longstaff and Bruno sitting behind while Joelinton serves his suspension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It’s not clear to me that Howe got it wrong today like. We should’ve scored at least 2 goals and the ones we let in were soft. Man City are amazing. The miss from Wilson was terrible, and maybe Isak scores it. But apart from that you can see logic behind Howe’s decisions. I hope to see ASM, Isak and Targett play in the next couple. But this was a game where you can understand going for grafters. It's hard to remain balanced after our third defeat in as many games, by the same fucking score, after missing good chances in all 3. But this is where i'm (trying to be) at. We're maybe not quite as dynamic as we were in the Autumn but making chances is not our biggest issue, even with "tired" players. I do think maybe he was thinking that to change today, and lose anyway, was the wrong move.I'd expect 2-3 changes next week in a much more winnable game. Today was frustrating, but more to do with making and missing chances, than getting things massively wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) I backed his decision to play Wilson in the cup final as I thought it was the right thing to play the team that essentially got us into 4th place. Yet again though, in that game, Wilson did nothing to justify the faith that the manager put in him. He should have been dropped today, no question about it. If Wilson plays ahead of Isak next week then Eddie will feel his first bit of wrath from the support. Edited March 4, 2023 by Wandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Shame almost every team in the world disagrees. Worky ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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