Eddie Howe

[TheBrownBottle]

8 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

 

Me and others have been saying he should do this for months. I said it regarding the Man U league cup game and thought he should've rotated before that as well.

Yep, I remember we had this discussion at the time - I felt that I’d rather play reserves in league match to increase chances of cup success, you held the opposite view - but we were both agreed that a complete swap out was necessary 

[Vinny Green Balls]

8 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

IMO you try to rotate in 3 scenarios:

(1) where you think you will win comfortably - Crystal Palace (H) for example. But for us.. these games are rare. Didn't take those few occasions. 

(2) when you are up by a wide margin early - this is the least beneficial type of resting IMO but Howe doesn't do this much either - Sheff U away for example.

(3) On a congested fixture list, you just pick 1 to rotate - 4 games in 14 days, pick 1 to rotate players. We didn't do that either.

 

All the teams that compete in the CL group stages need to rotate. The elite teams can rest players in 1 or 2 CL games. The rest have to rest players in domestic cup competitions and the league IMO. When it was easier to do it, Howe didn't. When it was harder to do it, Howe didn't do it.

 

If not for Burn's injury - we probably don't see much of Livra. The entire approach to rotation is wrong IMO. And there's history - here and at Bournemouth. So I can't cut Eddie as much slack as others are willing. There's too much evidence that he's a co-conspirator in this crisis.

 

And tbh - I think Klopp is similar (but more willing to rotate still). Hence why Liverpool have feast seasons and some really ropey ones. I hope this is a ropey one for Howe. But the rotation, fatigue thing is an area of weakness. Not just something that has happened through bad luck alone.

 

Yes finally we acknowledge he is a fallible human being who can make bad decisions. You are right - he is not perfect. Nobody else in this conversation is suggesting he's replaced though.

That’s because you are being pretty reasonable. Once again, There are a few on here who have a long history of being wildly reactionary when we hit a bad patch, and then they pretend as if nothing happened. 

 

I think you raise good points, but then again, you  aren’t discussing the merits of Mourinho coming in.

[Zero]

I don’t think anyone here would say Jose is a better fit for Newcastle. I am Jose fans but I don’t think we are prepared for a short term win at this moment manager yet. We are still building our foundation as a top 4 contender.

 

But Jose is a realistic appointment if Howe is fired. That’s not something we want, but that would probably be the “most sensible” choice by the management. Not that we would agree with that logic behind, just like firing Howe now is not a sensible decision, but we all know it’s becoming a real possibility. 

[Away Toon]

Mourinho would bring horrible football and the never ending just escalating Jose circus. However if we finish the season badly and Howe remains incapable of rotating and continues to be tactically inflexible we could well end up with him as our next manager, unless we can tempt a De Zerbi or Alonso.

 

The only upside is Jose just might win us a cup before it all goes to the dogs, it’s the kind of thing he does.

[Vinny Green Balls]

 It's on me for mentioning him again.

[Groundhog63]

3 hours ago, Away Toon said:

Mourinho would bring horrible football and the never ending just escalating Jose circus. However if we finish the season badly and Howe remains incapable of rotating and continues to be tactically inflexible we could well end up with him as our next manager, unless we can tempt a De Zerbi or Alonso.

 

The only upside is Jose just might win us a cup before it all goes to the dogs, it’s the kind of thing he does.

 

Utter garbage

[catlover24]

5 hours ago, Away Toon said:

Mourinho would bring horrible football and the never ending just escalating Jose circus. However if we finish the season badly and Howe remains incapable of rotating and continues to be tactically inflexible we could well end up with him as our next manager, unless we can tempt a De Zerbi or Alonso.

 

The only upside is Jose just might win us a cup before it all goes to the dogs, it’s the kind of thing he does.

De Zerbi is annoying overrated garbage.

[Away Toon]

6 hours ago, Groundhog63 said:

 

Utter garbage

Your opinion is to be respected your contribution to the discussion not so much.

[Away Toon]

4 hours ago, catlover24 said:

De Zerbi is annoying overrated garbage.

Your opinion is to be respected your contribution to the discussion not so much.

[Away Toon]

Honestly what's the point of posting on a discussion forum if you are not prepared to discuss?

[Vinny Green Balls]

On the flip side, what’s the point in posting on a forum if you are unprepared for pushback?

[Away Toon]

6 hours ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

On the flip side, what’s the point in posting on a forum if you are unprepared for pushback?

That hardly classifies as pushback, it's just posters not capable of entering into a discussion with someone with contrasting views to their own.  Maybe it's just a lack of  intellectual capacity .

[Vinny Green Balls]

5 hours ago, Away Toon said:

That hardly classifies as pushback, it's just posters not capable of entering into a discussion with someone with contrasting views to their own.  Maybe it's just a lack of  intellectual capacity .

I suspect that if he said that the opinion was garbage and then explained in detail why, you would still find some self victimizing angle 

 

 

Edited January 19 by Vinny Green Balls

[Matt1892]

22 hours ago, catlover24 said:

De Zerbi is annoying overrated garbage.

He isn’t. Tactically he is very good and is continuing to perform at a high level despite Brighton making nearly £100 million profit on transfers in the summer. It is easy to forget how small of a football club Brighton are.

 

The other thing is that whilst he joined Brighton after Ashworth had left to come here, the way Brighton plan it is likely that Ashworth had identified him as a coach to watch long before he left, it wasn’t as if there was rumblings about Potter going long before he did and he was linked with every vacant position.

 

I like Brightons football but some of our fans at home might find it frustrating the lack of urgency it has, as it is designed to be possession based around the back and then to counter when pressed.

 

He also comes across as a down to earth guy.

[Isaksbigrightfoot]

2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

He isn’t. Tactically he is very good and is continuing to perform at a high level despite Brighton making nearly £100 million profit on transfers in the summer. It is easy to forget how small of a football club Brighton are.

 

The other thing is that whilst he joined Brighton after Ashworth had left to come here, the way Brighton plan it is likely that Ashworth had identified him as a coach to watch long before he left, it wasn’t as if there was rumblings about Potter going long before he did and he was linked with every vacant position.

 

I like Brightons football but some of our fans at home might find it frustrating the lack of urgency it has, as it is designed to be possession based around the back and then to counter when pressed.

 

He also comes across as a down to earth guy.

Imagine what he would be like in Ze Derbi.

 

Ive always wanted to say that but never had the chance.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Isaksbigrightfoot said:

Imagine what he would be like in Ze Derbi.

 

Ive always wanted to say that but never had the chance.

 

Doesn't work because his name's De Zerbi not Ze Derbi. Uh? I know what you're doing, the derby, but...

[Isaksbigrightfoot]

24 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Doesn't work because his name's De Zerbi not Ze Derbi. Uh? I know what you're doing, the derby, but...

Tomato potato!

[The College Dropout]

I say this all the time and I’ll say it again. The reason Brighton have gone from a team in League 1 to finishing 6th in the PL is their owner Tony Bloom. 
 

He’s the primary architect of Brightons data led approach to everything.  He owns a data company.  The Brentford owner used to work for him and follows a similar model.  
 

Dan Ashworth was a cog not the heart or brains. 

[Isaksbigrightfoot]

17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I say this all the time and I’ll say it again. The reason Brighton have gone from a team in League 1 to finishing 6th in the PL is their owner Tony Bloom. 
 

He’s the primary architect of Brightons data led approach to everything.  He owns a data company.  The Brentford owner used to work for him and follows a similar model.  
 

Dan Ashworth was a cog not the heart or brains. 

I read Blooms life story in brief. The guy is either a total genius or lucky.

 

He plays the odds. And beat them aswell.

[Kid Icarus]

Just been watching the highlights of PSG at home. A reminder of who we are when we have anything even resembling a fit squad. 

 

All down to this man. Even with the takeover and another manager, we don't win any games in the style that we do under him and I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

Love you Eddie. 

 

 

Edited January 19 by Kid Icarus

[SteV]

15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Just been watching the highlights of PSG at home. A reminder of who we are when we have anything even resembling a fit squad. 

 

All down to this man. Even with the takeover and another manager, we don't win any games in the style that we do under him and I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

Love you Eddie. 

 

 

 

I know it’s very rare a team has everybody fit for any particular game, but it’s worth remembering that even on that night we were missing Botman, Joelinton, Wilson and Barnes.

[Gottlob]

57 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Just been watching the highlights of PSG at home. A reminder of who we are when we have anything even resembling a fit squad. 

 

All down to this man. Even with the takeover and another manager, we don't win any games in the style that we do under him and I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

Love you Eddie. 

 

 

 

 

I prefer to rewatch Seinfeld myself. A microcosm of New York City in which the globular becomes molecular. A reification of the mundane whereby the sheer matter of life and those interstices between dramas and other entertainments become the raw material of art itself.

 

Even some thirty years later I laugh every time. And utterly impossible without the man whose name adorns the masthead.

 

Still love you Jerry.

[Kid Icarus]

15 minutes ago, Gottlob said:

 

I prefer to rewatch Seinfeld myself. A microcosm of New York City in which the globular becomes molecular. A reification of the mundane whereby the sheer matter of life and those interstices between dramas and other entertainments become the raw material of art itself.

 

Even some thirty years later I laugh every time. And utterly impossible without the man whose name adorns the masthead.

 

Still love you Jerry.

 

Think I was too young for Seinfeld like. I've tried but it never hit home, whereas Frasier and Friends did.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

31 minutes ago, Gottlob said:

 

I prefer to rewatch Seinfeld myself. A microcosm of New York City in which the globular becomes molecular. A reification of the mundane whereby the sheer matter of life and those interstices between dramas and other entertainments become the raw material of art itself.

 

Even some thirty years later I laugh every time. And utterly impossible without the man whose name adorns the masthead.

 

Still love you Jerry.

The Alan Pardew of Comedians, if he were a lollipop he’d lick himself to death. His stand up is truly horrific too

[Gottlob]

48 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Think I was too young for Seinfeld like. I've tried but it never hit home, whereas Frasier and Friends did.

 

I love Friends but never got into Frasier, although I saw one scene from an episode that was airing on television a few weeks ago which was very funny, where Frasier and Niles demonstrate the change in their singing voices as they descend into or ascend from a crouch position.

 

 

The comedy from the nineties that I feel like I ought to watch is The Larry Sanders Show. Will anybody vouch for it?

 

40 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

The Alan Pardew of Comedians, if he were a lollipop he’d lick himself to death. His stand up is truly horrific too