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Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

Maybe Alonso would be cool with managing the last nine games with the assurance that he gets to coach the season after next.

Only half the season 

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7 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

 

Good response, But using Elon Musk as an example of good management is just absolutely insane. 

It wasn’t an example of good management. It was an example of some normal bloke/girl bringing something to the attention of a genius, that they themselves hadn’t considered. And it turned out to be a great idea by all accounts.

But us normal folk know nothing apparently ?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Shearergol said:


Well this feels constructive. Do you think another manager would solve it?

Eddies problem Eddie needs to solve it sorry if its confusing for you

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Bizarre opinion - but looking at the league table today - I still think Eddie is doing and has done a great job this season.

 

It's been a freak season with injuries and the Tonali situation, plus amping up our fixtures with CL while still having a squad fit for the championship in many ways.

Not sure many other managers would have done much more, yes we fucked up in some games and should have done better, but Howes doing a sterling job with some of the options he has to pick from.

 

Just my thoughts but I'd defiantly be giving him one more season.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Did the tactics injure Pope?


Of course there’s been some innocuous injuries like that.. same as Jacob Murphy.. but the hamstring, thigh and acl injuries I’d bet my house on being a result of them being run into the ground over 2 seasons.

 

“When muscles become fatigued, they may not be able to support the joints as effectively, increasing the risk of injury.

 

Additionally, fatigue can alter biomechanics and movement patterns, placing greater stress on certain areas of the body, which can predispose athletes to injuries like hamstring strains or ACL tears.”

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I was going to smack myself in the face with a hammer, but I've just read the last 5 pages of this thread, so I don't have that urge anymore.

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3 minutes ago, 54 said:

I was going to smack myself in the face with a hammer, but I've just read the last 5 pages of this thread, so I don't have that urge anymore.

Well, if you change your mind and you need a hand…

 

 

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1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said:


Of course there’s been some innocuous injuries like that.. same as Jacob Murphy.. but the hamstring, thigh and acl injuries I’d bet my house on being a result of them being run into the ground over 2 seasons.

 

“When muscles become fatigued, they may not be able to support the joints as effectively, increasing the risk of injury.

 

Additionally, fatigue can alter biomechanics and movement patterns, placing greater stress on certain areas of the body, which can predispose athletes to injuries like hamstring strains or ACL tears.”

Personally I think Howe turned lots of shit players into decent looking players with this tactic. When we can buy better players we probably won’t use this tactic. No other manager copes any better with this squad imo 

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2 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

It wasn’t an example of good management. It was an example of some normal bloke/girl bringing something to the attention of a genius, that they themselves hadn’t considered. And it turned out to be a great idea by all account.

But us normal folk know nothing apparently ?

 

 

 

Ahhh gotcha. fair enough. Misunderstood you. 

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5 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

It wasn’t an example of good management. It was an example of some normal bloke/girl bringing something to the attention of a genius, that they themselves hadn’t considered. And it turned out to be a great idea by all accounts.

But us normal folk know nothing apparently ?

 

 

 

 

I don't think that example is the slam dunk you think it is holmes.

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1 minute ago, LiquidAK said:

 

I don't think that example is the slam dunk you think it is holmes.

:lol: I was thinking the same. But I get what he’s trying to say now, which was a very reasonable thing.

 

 

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It's simple for me really. Do we have the 4th best squad in the league? 6th? 8th? Emphasis on the word squad there too. We are about where we should be given what we have, where we've been and what we've had to deal with. When Howe had one game a week and more or less a full squad he could drill the tactics into the players and made some of the less talented ones look a lot better than they are. Obviously we've had many weeks this year where we've probably trained once or twice in between games and it shows. Then remove key pieces of the team such as Pope, Joelinton, a fully fit striker for many weeks, so on and so forth, I think 6th-8th is about right for this group of players. If you look at Spurs in their current guise, it'll be interesting to see how they perform next season if they make the Champions League. Similar high intensity (to us last season) and they'll play something ridiculous like 41 games all of this season. We've already played that many. 

 

He's more than earned the right to have another go at things next season. Obviously there are some things I hope he has learned from but he's got his way of playing and would rather the players get adjusted to that rather than changing for their sake. He's been that way since the day he arrived, we took some hidings (Leicester, Man City and Spurs away in his first season spring to mind) but he never changed his philosophy.

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2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

:lol: I was thinking the same. But I get what he’s trying to say now, which was a very reasonable thing.

 

 

 

Disagree tbh :lol: a better parallel would be the normal bloke/girl questioning every decision the rocket engineer made and not having the humility to appreciate that they might be working with more information.

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1 minute ago, LiquidAK said:

Disagree tbh :lol: a better parallel would be the normal bloke/girl questioning every decision the rocket engineer made and not having the humility to appreciate that they might be working with more information.

that's also a very reasonable point. But we all have blindspots. Whether it's that or not with Eddie is not so clear. But fuck, it feels like we lost 4-0.

  

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27 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

I could pull up stills of Man City getting ran through similar to this earlier this season when Rodri was out. What is this supposed to prove exactly?

What Man City getting ran through last season (?) looks like

 

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Us getting ran through 

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2 hours ago, Matt1892 said:


You are missing the point too, as nobody is saying that you should still be as good when your better players are out.

 

Where he is tactically limited is where we set up with having a goalkeeper that sweeps up in Pope, meaning we can get away with a higher line, yet when Pope is out and replaced with a keeper that isn’t comfortable sweeping up, we still play with the high line and are done with long balls constantly.

 

 

Could it be that it’s not that everyone else is missing the point…?

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Just now, Iwantcurlyhair2 said:

xG graph = Nick Pope

Definitely mattered, but it can be both the system and the missing players, which is my point. We shouldn’t be Nick Pope away from conceding chances like Burnley

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I’d sack Howe if we were Man City and conceding the goals we have after assembling the best squad the league has ever seen. We’re not though, and our good players have been injured too much.

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3 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

I’d sack Howe if we were Man City and conceding the goals we have after assembling the best squad the league has ever seen. We’re not though, and our good players have been injured too much.

Injuries you say?! Fuck me, why didn’t anyone mention them before?

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