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2 minutes ago, huss9 said:

i'm fucking loving it at the moment.

 

Me too but I understand the ownership and ticket concerns. If I wasn't such a sucker for refreshing the website for tickets I might have distracted myself too. Not like under Ashley but for different reasons. 

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I love Eddie and back him to the hilt.

However, I feel this season we will have to evolve. 

 

Our high energy, high press tactics worked great in 22/23. But we fell off a cliff last season when half the squad broke down and too many games, sapped the live out of the rest. 

 

Now, it feels like most of the league are adopting a similar high press tactic but with better quality squads.

 

I fear we have become quite predictable now, with teams also likely to target our inability to play out from the back with people like Pope and Burn's limitations on the ball. 

 

Without the momentum of new signings, we may need to be more flexible in style and formation this season to achieve success. Unless Tonali somehow really transforms the team on his return.

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Just now, alexf said:

I love Eddie and back him to the hilt.

However, I feel this season we will have to evolve. 

 

Our high energy, high press tactics worked great in 22/23. But we fell off a cliff last season when half the squad broke down and too many games, sapped the live out of the rest. 

 

Now, it feels like most of the league are adopting a similar high press tactic but with better quality squads.

 

 

I think the problem is that we've stopped doing it tbh. The intense high press was non existent in a lot of games last season (put down to injuries), and has been pretty much non-existent this season too. We aren't very good at developing play from the back, so without the turnovers we struggle. 

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53 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

I think the problem is that we've stopped doing it tbh. The intense high press was non existent in a lot of games last season (put down to injuries), and has been pretty much non-existent this season too. We aren't very good at developing play from the back, so without the turnovers we struggle. 

 

I'm begging Tonali can help us play in different ways or at least help with the bold as it looks like atm we're trying to play a way we just can't do. We could've signed players (mainly last summer) to aid us doing that but didn't. 

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I feel like we will look much better without Murphy on the right.  I love the guy, but we lose fluidity with him and the ability to retain possession. 

 

Also, still too early to draw too many conclusions given (a) the madness of matchweek 1, and (b) a challenging early-season away fixture with two make-shift center backs. 

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2 hours ago, OpenC said:


No, you didn't misunderstand :) the ownership thing; the difficulty getting to the game; the flat atmospheres and moaning fans in the concourses when you do; the megastar dramas.  It's not all down to Newcastle though; the league we play in and the VAR and randomly applied financial nonsense that's slowly killing it aren't of Newcastle's doing but they take the edge off it further.  Modern top level football is just a more difficult thing for me to really enjoy.

 

It's good to see them doing better than they have for two decades, of course, but honestly I feel next to nowt for them these days, no real attachment at all.  It's mostly my discovery of non-league that's really done it, in all probability - just feels like a more honest and more sporting competition.

 

 

 

 

It’s bizarre to expect Howe to somehow address this though. 

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6 minutes ago, Bellars said:

I feel like we will look much better without Murphy on the right.  I love the guy, but we lose fluidity with him and the ability to retain possession. 

 

Also, still too early to draw too many conclusions given (a) the madness of matchweek 1, and (b) a challenging early-season away fixture with two make-shift center backs. 

 

Yeah, Miggy might never go past a player but he's good at retaining possession.

 

I also don't really get the general hysteria, 4 points from 6 isn't bad when one game was mostly played with 10 and Bournemouth has been a tough place for us. I've only read the match thread until HT but we had a decent first 15 minutes and a decent last 30 against Bournemouth, it's not like we were hammered all match.

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10 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

It’s bizarre to expect Howe to somehow address this though. 

 

I don't, I was responding to Ian's question about why I felt distant from the club :)

 

 

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Three of our next four games are winnable, but potentially tricky away games (Forest in the cup, Wolves, and Fulham). We'll have Tonali for all of them, Schar for the latter two, and hopefully a new signing. I think that will tell us a lot about where this season is heading because it's going to be difficult to qualify for the Champions League without better performances away from home.

 

In 2022/23 we were third in away form. Last season we were 11th (-12 points from the year before), while our home form was basically identical. We had some pretty fortunate away draws in 2022/23, but even if you take those away we still could have squeezed 4th and we were still 2-3 wins better off than last season.

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5 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

Three of our next four games are winnable, but potentially tricky away games (Forest in the cup, Wolves, and Fulham). We'll have Tonali for all of them, Schar for the latter two, and hopefully a new signing. I think that will tell us a lot about where this season is heading because it's going to be difficult to qualify for the Champions League without better performances away from home.

 

In 2022/23 we were third in away form. Last season we were 11th (-12 points from the year before), while our home form was basically identical. We had some pretty fortunate away draws in 2022/23, but even if you take those away we still could have squeezed 4th and we were still 2-3 wins better off than last season.

 

Fully agree.

 

We had some frustrating results pre-October in 2022-23 for some draws to clutch at. Home and away (Palace, Wolves, Bournemouth, Liverpool) but from an admittedly tiny sample size I've not seen anything remotely similar so far this season to the level of performances that we saw from 2022-23 against Forest, Man City or Liverpool. Fingers crossed that changes starting tomorrow and Sunday.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

Three of our next four games are winnable, but potentially tricky away games (Forest in the cup, Wolves, and Fulham). We'll have Tonali for all of them, Schar for the latter two, and hopefully a new signing. I think that will tell us a lot about where this season is heading because it's going to be difficult to qualify for the Champions League without better performances away from home.

 

In 2022/23 we were third in away form. Last season we were 11th (-12 points from the year before), while our home form was basically identical. We had some pretty fortunate away draws in 2022/23, but even if you take those away we still could have squeezed 4th and we were still 2-3 wins better off than last season.


I’m not feeling confident about any away match currently. 

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