Eddie Howe

[Bimpy474]

12 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

It was the same with Spurs in the summer to be fair, they made their manager hunt sound like a fiasco.

 

Aye, really is a nasty side to way things get reported, everything is just negative.

[Dr Jinx]

I’m concerned at the way all this has played out but I’m not overly upset about Emery. Good coach for sure but just something about him I can’t warm to. I don’t ever want any player or manager who doesn’t want to be here.

 

To me, it sounded like he didn’t have total faith in himself to turn this situation around, worried about a sack clause if relegated? If he’s all that, that shouldn’t have even been an issue.

 

Staveley and co, good people used to dealing in certain circles. I think they’ll learn massively from this, they have to. The egos in football are unlike anything they’ve ever dealt with. This is why they urgently need a strong CEO to be front line for dealing with this stuff.

[Kaizero]

Emery's not done very well in the league with Villareal though, or am I mistaken? 

[Robster]

I'm being patient and trusting what the owners are doing but I just want someone soon because I don't feel like I'll fully enjoy the takeover until the new management team is in place.
 

[Armchair Pundit]

I'd still prefer Fonseca, he's attack minded and wear's Zorro outfits to press conferences, what's not to like? If it has to be Howe though then so be it, as has been said, he's an improvement on Bruce, just hope he's enough of an improvement to keep the crowd happy and hopefully save us from relegation. 

[Skeletor]

Howe is a no excitement appointment. Will probably keep us up which is the main goal this season but I can't imagine him signing great players.

[toon25]

15 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said:

 

I'm sold now, there's some levels of Rafa obsession of football that Howe seems to have.

I wonder what Big Steve's tactics and analysis room looked like.

[Robster]

2 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

Howe is a no excitement appointment. Will probably keep us up which is the main goal this season but I can't imagine him signing great players.

I think signing 'great' players is a few seasons away.
What we need is someone to help grow the club to a point where the club, as much as it's manager, becomes the big selling point.

[McDog]

6 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said:

I'd still prefer Fonseca, he's attack minded and wear's Zorro outfits to press conferences, what's not to like? If it has to be Howe though then so be it, as has been said, he's an improvement on Bruce, just hope he's enough of an improvement to keep the crowd happy and hopefully save us from relegation. 

 

 

Those are huge positives (especially the Zorro thing) and he seems like a really passionate manager with a plan to boot. Alas......

[The Prophet]

I still have reservations about Fonseca, largely because I know the least about him. 

 

I am enjoying just how enthusiastic he seems to be though. I'm half expecting him to rock up at SJP demanding an interview.

[Shak]

Will be quite positive if it's Howe.

 

Young manager who has done some good things and looks like he has potential to grow. Should hopefully be able to make a quick impact which is important given our current plight.

 

Important to remember that this doesn't necessarily have to be the manager that takes us to the CL and winning trophies. So much change needs to happen at the club before that's something we can realistically aim for, if he comes in and keeps us up and gets us looking like a team with some semblance of a plan while we rebuild the squad for a couple of years that'll be an important job done.

 

Maybe he'll take a step forward as a manager at a club with more resources and become a top boss. If so, great. If not, that'll become evident in time and we'll hopefully be better able to attract a Ten Hag or Emery level manager by then.

[Away Toon]

Villarreal manager Unai Emery, 50, turned down a move to Newcastle because the club wanted a clause in his contract which would allow them to sack him if the Magpies are relegated at the end of the season. (Daily Mirror)

[Memphis]

Howe would be fine. I can't pretend to be excited given the shambolic search but I think he'd be fine. I would expect that he would help us crawl rather than walk, and he certainly wouldn't be the man to take us to the upper echelon. 

[Thumbheed]

Not vehemently against Howe being appointed but I just don't see a manager that will be able to give us the edge and steel we desperately need for a relegation battle. 

 

What he did at Bournemouth was genuinely impressive irrespective of net outlay and their eventual relegation, but what can't be ignored is the fact that when he was managing, he was up against a closed shop top 6 and 14 others all capable of beating each other, you look at the league now and it's a far more settled top 10/11, with most of those teams having settled squads with plenty of quality throughout them, a top manager or in most cases both. Outside of those top 10/11 you then have 3-4 teams with some real top quality players in their side. 

 

Getting us out this predicament is not gonna be an easy task and I just can't see how Howe would bring us to the performance level we'd need to compete against these teams. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Thumbheed

[Consortium of one]

In five years all the good coaches will fight each other for this job.

 

For 14 years we watched this club spiral down.

 

Now we get to watch it rise

[Shadow Puppets]

17 minutes ago, Memphis said:

Howe would be fine. I can't pretend to be excited given the shambolic search but I think he'd be fine. I would expect that he would help us crawl rather than walk, and he certainly wouldn't be the man to take us to the upper echelon. 

Shambolic search? Hyperbole much?

[et tu brute]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

I wonder what happened with Favre. Perhaps the lack of PL experience put them off.

Every foreign manager, when they first come, is in the same boat, some succeed very well and some don’t. However you see UK managers like Bruce (with tons of Premier League experience) failing time and time again. If a manager is good enough and has a decent track record of results, player/team development, tactics, in play management etc etc and at a decent level, then that should be first priority when hiring, not what League they have not managed in.

 

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by et tu brute

[Strawberry]

Why is Rafa's odds are shortening today?

[Memphis]

16 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Shambolic search? Hyperbole much?

I think spending three weeks to find the right person, only to have it publicly end in said person pulling out with a flourish while much of the observing media/clubs cackled at our club is shambolic, yes. It doesn't mean that it's entirely Staveley et al's fault, but it is a pretty shabby situation.

 

I don't think that's hyperbolic. 

 

And if a forensic search of the world's top managers ends in us hiring Eddie Howe after three weeks of stasis and dropped points, well, that's not exactly an amazing outcome. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Memphis

[toontownman]

13 minutes ago, Memphis said:

I think spending three weeks to find the right person, only to have it publicly end in said person pulling out with a flourish while much of the observing media/clubs cackled at our club is shambolic, yes. It doesn't mean that it's entirely Staveley et al's fault, but it is a pretty shabby situation.

 

I don't think that's hyperbolic. 

 

And if a forensic search of the world's top managers ends in us hiring Eddie Howe after three weeks of stasis and dropped points, well, that's not exactly an amazing outcome. 

 

 

 

 

 

Life's not about the destination.. all about the process... trust the process. 

Oh wait we are over that now. 

 

I don't agree with the outcome assessment though. Absolutely nothing wrong with taking the time and assessing all options, trying for the best options. We were obviously close with at least one big top tier managers and many conversations could have been, "not at this time" and might pay dividends later. I don't think anyone would want us to have picked a 10th choice without asking and going through checks aiming for better, nor should that have happened. That's truly limited thinking imo and a proper ?

 

If anything it has given the owners more links and contacts while giving them a true idea of where and how the club is viewed by managers/agents etc. Noone was getting radically different results from our last two fixtures.

 

I expect none of us (owners included) really knew exactly who would be interested, we are where we are and hopefully whomever they get is the best available and we all back that. I just hope they get it sorted this week either way.

 

[Nobody]

31 minutes ago, Strawberry said:

Why is Rafa's odds are shortening today?

Because a couple of Geordies put ten quid each on him being the next manager.

[Willow]

1 hour ago, toon25 said:

I wonder what Big Steve's tactics and analysis room looked like.

 

[McDog]

1 minute ago, Willow said:

 

 

 

Holy shit that looks like a mates house back in 1978. God rest his soul. It was bad. He had me smuggle out a bottle of Rum under my shirt in front of the family. That was fun.

[Gottlob]

23 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

 

Holy shit that looks like a mates house back in 1978. God rest his soul. It was bad. He had me smuggle out a bottle of Rum under my shirt in front of the family. That was fun.

 

Why was your mate getting you to smuggle the rum out of his own house? It's like robbing Peter to pay Paul. It doesn't make any sense.

[McDog]

7 minutes ago, Gottlob said:

 

Why was your mate getting you to smuggle the rum out of his own house? It's like robbing Peter to pay Paul. It doesn't make any sense.

 

 

 

He handed it to me and said "put this under your shirt" and opened the damn door. I was frozen to the spot and had no option but to improvise. It did work by the way.

 

 

edit: It was his dads rum. I get now what you are asking. It was his parents house and we were 17.

 

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by McDog