r0cafella Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) The Spurs comparisons really need to stop mind. We are light years behind them at the moment. Edited November 4, 2021 by r0cafella Auto correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 We have money, so much money. Just use it to lure great manager, offer something that just can’t be rejected. Manager is more important than some £20 million signing. It is the most important choice for us in a very long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 It is disappointing not getting Emery, but he was the caliber of a manager i did not think we could get right now. We are in real danger of relegation and money wont help us until January. Given our situation, i always thought that the Emery's and ten Hag's were going to be kind of names we could be going for next, if we stay up. If the takeover would have been completed during the summer or we would be around mid-table now, it surely would be completely different situation. I think Howe would have enough to keep us up. That is the short-term priority. He does not seem anything like these PFM c***s and i remember his Bournemouth side tried to play good football. He did very well with Bournemouth and who knows how what he could do with a bigger club. How far he could take this "process", remains to be seen. It would have been great having a new manager before Brighton..but under Jones we can write the game off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Elephant said: We have money, so much money. Just use it to lure great manager, offer something that just can’t be rejected. Manager is more important than some £20 million signing. It is the most important choice for us in a very long time. Most managers are already getting good wages. We could obviously better that, but then provide next to zero chance of them winning a major trophy. Plus our infrastructure (training facility, medical facility, etc etc) is shit, we have zero other important staff (CEO, DoF etc) and our squad needs a total overhaul which will take more than a few transfer windows. Throwing money at it in this instance isn’t as easy as you suggest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Throwing money is all well and good for us, but any self respecting manager isn't going to join just for that reason alone. If we had the workings of even a half decent PL side (Outrageous I even have to say that!) Then I would've fancied our chances a lot more with the likes of emery. As it is we are a basket case from the boardroom down to the stadium maintenance team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, RS said: Emery’s agent leaked the approach to get him a pay rise. He was never coming. No matter what it will be a dumb move by Emery if he doesn't turn things around at Villareal quickly. They've been shit this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 So this is where the 'trust the process' and the consortium saying they will do analyse and then make a decision. If we are lead to believe that the process came out with Emery and Howe as the two front runners, then the consortium should now go after Howe. If they dont and try for someone else, then they dont trust the process and the last 3 weeks will have been for nothing. The above assume Emery and Howe reports are true of course! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingxlnc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Manxst said: Most managers are already getting good wages. We could obviously better that, but then provide next to zero chance of them winning a major trophy. Plus our infrastructure (training facility, medical facility, etc etc) is shit, we have zero other important staff (CEO, DoF etc) and our squad needs a total overhaul which will take more than a few transfer windows. Throwing money at it in this instance isn’t as easy as you suggest. Infrastructure is so important. Conte on day one at Spurs said Im so impressed with the facilities here, I can't wait to.start work and it's made me even more determined to deliver world class results on the pitch to match the world class facilities they have off the pitch. When someone who's been at many of the top clubs says that you know they will bring their a game and want to actually work all hours obsessively to get to success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Manxst said: Most managers are already getting good wages. We could obviously better that, but then provide next to zero chance of them winning a major trophy. Plus our infrastructure (training facility, medical facility, etc etc) is shit, we have zero other important staff (CEO, DoF etc) and our squad needs a total overhaul which will take more than a few transfer windows. Throwing money at it in this instance isn’t as easy as you suggest. Yes, I do know this. I’m just tired that it seems we are still thinking small like with Ashley. There is a lot of great managers out there, who would love to have a chance at Premier League. Just seems we are not making the progress we should be. This club is total mess at the moment and the structures are not there. But what we have is money and we really need to start using it to save us from going down. I’m one of those who have been constantly saying that it is better to make right choice rather than quick choice, but we really need to start making progress soon to save us. We need to start making right decisions quicker. We have lots of people advising what to do, but don’t seem to have that person who has vision to do it. We need manager and we need DoF, just go for RALF RANGNICK! Rangnick has done the same with RB Leipzig, worked as temporary manager before going DoF. He has so much vision and knowledge. Give him the job and let him sort this out before going for world-class manager in the summer. Edited November 4, 2021 by Elephant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 After the last 24 hours and initial disappointment, if it’s Howe they want then let’s go and get him make sure he is in for Monday and hope he can perform a miracle with these lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, r0cafella said: The Spurs comparisons really need to stop kind. We are light years behind them at the moment. And they didn’t really take 24 hours to get conte Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Howe is laughing like. He'll get a great offer now. Seems a lot of people are OK with Howe because he talks a good story. Still better than the cabbage spewing out clichéd bollocks (and that was him at his very best) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 If it’s Howe (until Rafa is available next summer) just get on with it and appoint him before Brighton. The thought of watching another Jones display makes me sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I wonder if Howe is cool with working under a sporting director. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The caulkin article says he impressed them with his idea of who to target in the January window and how he could work with Jones. And they where also impressed because he has worked with Wilson, Ritchie and Fraser before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Gotta be a bit weird rocking up to a job that you and the whole world knows you were at best the second choice for Sure all the money bags help of course Edited November 4, 2021 by Chicane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I wonder if Howe is cool with working under a sporting director. He did so at Bournemouth and recommended the guy to join him at Celtic. Richard Hughes, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) I just don't get the Howe hype at all tbh, like I love Hughton but I would be equally baffled if there was constant talk of him being some kind of managerial prodigy. Hope I'm wrong obvs. Edited November 4, 2021 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicane said: Gotta be a bit weird rocking up to a job that you and the whole world knows you were at best the second choice for Sure all the money bags help of course It'll be Howes job to prove the owners wrong. Jones in charge for Brighton man. Howe is underwhelming but ffs just get him in charge ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I don't see much hype about him tbh More a case of acceptance that he's the man now so let's try to look at the positives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Really coming around to the idea of Howe now, not a massive ego so less likely to throw his toys out of the pram, oversaw the development of Bournemouth through the leagues so will have some idea of building an infrastructure and facilities etc which he can have an input in. Clearly an intelligent guy who seems to communicate well which is what it seems modern footballers need instead of the "let's play" PFM bullshit. Yes we might not get the Messi's etc in January but that is not what we need right now but I am sure he could attract players like Ramsey and linguard easily enough and this is what we need at this stage, good with the youth players by all accounts as well. We might not get the instant couple of wins that we need straight away but I would be confident that he would have us in a good position with plenty of the season to spare, I also think he would see straight through the likes of shelvey etc and peddle them at the first opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Chicane said: I don't see much hype about him tbh More a case of acceptance that he's the man now so let's try to look at the positives I might have just made it up tbf Always assumed he was seen as an upcoming English Pep. That may have passed years ago like I've been out the loop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rich said: He did so at Bournemouth and recommended the guy to join him at Celtic. Richard Hughes, I think. Is that the guys responsible for Ibe and Solanke? the signings they made during his tenure really are concerning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, MagMal said: Really coming around to the idea of Howe now, not a massive ego so less likely to throw his toys out of the pram, oversaw the development of Bournemouth through the leagues so will have some idea of building an infrastructure and facilities etc which he can have an input in. Clearly an intelligent guy who seems to communicate well which is what it seems modern footballers need instead of the "let's play" PFM bullshit. Yes we might not get the Messi's etc in January but that is not what we need right now but I am sure he could attract players like Ramsey and linguard easily enough and this is what we need at this stage, good with the youth players by all accounts as well. We might not get the instant couple of wins that we need straight away but I would be confident that he would have us in a good position with plenty of the season to spare, I also think he would see straight through the likes of shelvey etc and peddle them at the first opportunity. I watched those tactical videos with Howe and I thought there is no way Bruce would do anything like this or even know how to. I've also come around to the idea of Howe, totally based on he's a million miles better than Bruce. We've gotta get behind him and stop up this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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