Chris_R Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Video on another forum apparently showing footage of Eddie Howe at training today, maybe it was a false positive and he has returned 2 negative tests https://www.not606.com/threads/eddie-howe.396937/page-12 thats what the 2 spurs players did There are almost zero false positives. False negatives are common, false positives are as rare as intelligent Sunderland fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, Chris_R said: There are almost zero false positives. False negatives are common, false positives are as rare as intelligent Sunderland fans. Spurs managed to find 2 of them just before our game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: There are almost zero false positives. False negatives are common, false positives are as rare as intelligent Sunderland fans. There have been a bunch of false positives in the NFL over here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, McDog said: There have been a bunch of false positives in the NFL over here. No there haven't. There have been a bunch of people getting lucky by doing 2 negative tests afterwards. PCR tests are, at best, about 70% accurate at picking up even symptomatic cases when properly administered. That drops when people are asymptomatic or not doing the test properly because they want a negative result, but even working on that 70% figure, the odds of a person getting 2 negative tests when ill with Covid is about 9%. That's FAR higher than the chance of a false positive, which is waaaay less than 1%. Any supposed 'false positives' are almost certainly people gaming the system. I'm not just making shit up by the way, my wife works on the local Covid ward and has done for the last 18 months. She's had people dying in front of her from Covid, testing repeatedly negative. If you get a positive test, you almost certainly (like Vegas jackpot odds certainly) have Covid. If you get a negative test, you 'probably' don't have Covid. And that's PCR tests. Don't start me on lateral flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Yes there have been. There were issues in US lab that caused a bunch of them for starters. Anyway, looking forward to eventually seeing Eddie on the sideline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, McDog said: Yes there have been. There were issues in US lab that caused a bunch of them for starters. Anyway, looking forward to eventually seeing Eddie on the sideline. Well I can't legislate for lab issues, but actual false positives basically don't happen. False negatives are incredibly common, like about 30% of people with symptomatic Covid will test negative, and people doing their test badly (maybe because they want to be cleared to play?) won't help either. I was in Heathrow quarantine jail twice this year following travel, and we had to self administer our tests to be allowed to be released. I'm as sure as I can be that 99% of people probably just ran them under the tap and stuck them back in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Espio said: Wow. And this, people, is why numbers are still so fucking high. Misinformation is a helluva drug! the fella, you may need to stop doing 'your own research' and listen to actual real scientists/experts. Anyhoo, let's not go down this path in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Hey covid, get in the sea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 All I’m going to add to this rather crap debate is that I actually had to show the vaccination pass on my phone at the turnstile on Saturday - and for the first time. Just for anyone going to Norwich who hasn’t been recently… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Might be an idea to ignore that forum I linked, they are now saying the ASM has tested positive, seem to remember that he had it about a year ago and wouldn’t think you could get reinfected so soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) Fernando Gaviria got it twice within about 4 months. Possibility we lose a few to it this week if Howe has it. A Covid outbreak right now could finish us off. Edited November 22, 2021 by xLiaaamx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: Fernando Gaviria got it twice within about 4 months. Possibility we lose a few to it this week if Howe has it. A Covid outbreak right now could finish us off. That was before vaccination, I’m sure I read that the majority of our players are vaccinated, hence why none had to isolate after being in contact with Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, nufcnick said: Video on another forum apparently showing footage of Eddie Howe at training today, maybe it was a false positive and he has returned 2 negative tests https://www.not606.com/threads/eddie-howe.396937/page-12 thats what the 2 spurs players did The OP, got shiver down the spine seeing that after the discussion on COVID in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: The OP, got shiver down the spine seeing that after the discussion on COVID in this thread. Don’t get your hopes up, as people on here have said it was probably taken last week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, nufcnick said: Don’t get your hopes up, as people on here have said it was probably taken last week Nah, nah, talking about the OP of the Howe thread on that forum. It's a certain someone from here with dreadful takes on COVID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fella Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 13 hours ago, bowlingcrofty said: Well said. I am triple vaccinated myself so no, I'm not anti vax. Average age in death in UK from covid is 82.6 years. And uk survival rate is actually close to 99.8% now due to the vaccination programme. All this data is out there on sites such as PHE etc. I am pro vaccination and had all my mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I've rewatched the first half in full (and intend to watch the second), but I didn't notice at the time just how much higher we played up the pitch. Im not sure if this will be something Howe does every game, but it could produce some very goal heavy games while he's trying to implement it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Probably been mentioned but there's a good article about the game (and a few other bits) from Waugh on The Athletic. https://theathletic.com/2966237/2021/11/21/eddie-howe-first-fortnight-newcastle-manager?source=user-shared-article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: I've rewatched the first half in full (and intend to watch the second), but I didn't notice at the time just how much higher we played up the pitch. Im not sure if this will be something Howe does every game, but it could produce some very goal heavy games while he's trying to implement it. Hopefully, it might work more in our favour early on and for the next few games or so, be a bit of a surprise factor. There won't be much footage available of these players in this system. It's been two years of sit everyone behind the ball and hump it up to ASM and Wilson. I saw an average positions graphic from the Brighton game compared to Brentford. Whilst I appreciate Brighton was extreme in how defensive we were and we were playing away from home against a possession based team. It was still much more attacking on Saturday than I would have thought. I think it was 3-4 players more in the opposition half and everyone a good 10 yards further up the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said: In one of his interviews he says playing higher up the pitch is his way. Also press heavy. He's someone who says the cliché of "playing on the front foot" but actually does it. His philosophy is more Keegan than anything. The goals that I remember most, other than the ones like Ginola from outside the box, were when we were counter-attacking from deep, though. Gillespie legging it up the right hand side with an inhuman amount of pace, with the trademark falling-over-as-he-crosses it right onto the head of Ferdinand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 There's an article up there about him banning biscuits from the training ground.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: There's an article up there about him banning biscuits from the training ground.. I'm sure Bruce did him a favour and cleared the cupboards on his way out anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, wormy said: I'm sure Bruce did him a favour and cleared the cupboards on his way out anyway. He was cleared out so fast he forgot to pick up that last side of bacon hiding in the back of the fridge though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Looks nowt like him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, joeyt said: Looks nowt like him Looks like they started sketching Jones then changed it up last minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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