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9 hours ago, Superior Acuña said:

:lol: :lol:

 

ffs man

 

was about to say needs Captain Tom then saw Diana in the thread 

 

 

And anyone know the origin of 'you'll do for me bonny lad'?

 

 

 


think it was someone on here over Ben Arfa

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One of the things I’ve always found a bit weird about it is that while I genuinely believe Keegan saved and rebuilt the club and in some style, Robson did a good job at what was at the time one of the richest clubs on earth.  Don’t get me wrong, going to matches home and away from 2001-04 was fun - I was there - but if you’d asked me in 2004 after he left if in twenty years time NUFC supporters would be making gaudy shite venerating him like he’s the saint of the club I’d have laughed like a drain.  It’s beyond odd - it’s like everyone else has formed a different collective memory.  There’s a statue outside the ground of him - but Milburn’s was moved; nothing for Gallacher, Harvey, MacDonald etc etc.  It’s being a stranger in your own memories.

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3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

One of the things I’ve always found a bit weird about it is that while I genuinely believe Keegan saved and rebuilt the club and in some style, Robson did a good job at what was at the time one of the richest clubs on earth.  Don’t get me wrong, going to matches home and away from 2001-04 was fun - I was there - but if you’d asked me in 2004 after he left if in twenty years time NUFC supporters would be making gaudy shite venerating him like he’s the saint of the club I’d have laughed like a drain.  It’s beyond odd - it’s like everyone else has formed a different collective memory.  There’s a statue outside the ground of him - but Milburn’s was moved; nothing for Gallacher, Harvey, MacDonald etc etc.  It’s being a stranger in your own memories.

 

Bobby is remembered for much more than his time at Newcastle (as good as that was), he's a local guy highly respected in the world of football for his numerous achievements and legacy. But it's like fans have forgotten that and see him as a mythical NUFC figure. I love Bobby and think he should be remembered and celebrated as a whole- but also think you're right, it's become a bit distorted. 

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edit: ^^^ what he said

 

9 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

One of the things I’ve always found a bit weird about it is that while I genuinely believe Keegan saved and rebuilt the club and in some style, Robson did a good job at what was at the time one of the richest clubs on earth.  Don’t get me wrong, going to matches home and away from 2001-04 was fun - I was there - but if you’d asked me in 2004 after he left if in twenty years time NUFC supporters would be making gaudy shite venerating him like he’s the saint of the club I’d have laughed like a drain.  It’s beyond odd - it’s like everyone else has formed a different collective memory.  There’s a statue outside the ground of him - but Milburn’s was moved; nothing for Gallacher, Harvey, MacDonald etc etc.  It’s being a stranger in your own memories.

Always felt the SBR love was more for being able to claim someone with his incredible standing, CV and reputation within the game as one of ours, and not necessarily the good job he did here?

 

KK absolutely the more messianic figure but I've always had a different kind of appreciation and feeling for SBR.

 

 

Edited by thomas

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3 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

 

Bobby is remembered for much more than his time at Newcastle (as good as that was), he's a local guy highly respected in the world of football for his numerous achievements and legacy. But it's like fans have forgotten that and see him as a mythical NUFC figure. I love Bobby and think he should be remembered and celebrated as a whole- but also think you're right, it's become a bit distorted. 

Yeah, I agree that’s got a lot to do with it.  He definitely held a place in the national affection.

 

Don’t get me wrong, I certainly didn’t mean it as a criticism of Robson nor his time at SJP - but his lofty status at NUFC as a NUFC figure is, for me, overstated. 

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I have to agree like. He's more of a social figure that's attached to the area and the personification of who we like to think of ourselves and the club as. It's nice that he has a statue, but it's also mad that at the same time Joe Harvey gets a plaque and Kevin Keegan has nothing. 

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11 hours ago, Superior Acuña said:

:lol: :lol:

 

ffs man

 

was about to say needs Captain Tom then saw Diana in the thread 

 

 

And anyone know the origin of 'you'll do for me bonny lad'?

 

 

 

Fuck me I thought it was Anthony Gordon on a night out with Calvert-Lewin

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SBR was one of the last true gentlemen left in what was becoming an increasingly toxic sport. He carried himself with unbreakable dignity and earned the respect of everyone as a result. Marry that with an amazing managerial record at some of the biggest clubs in world football. He was a one-off. Eddie is very similar in the way he carries himself but he doesn't have the personality of SBR and can't quite match his record...yet.

Under Keegan, I think it was more the football we played that people warmed to rather than Keegan himself. We loved him but other fans didn't have that affection or respect for him. 

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I loved owt like that when I was a kid like. I had the NUFC cushions and mini strip in my dad's car, the St George's flag up at my window during Euro '96, the lot. Some adults don't seem to have gone through the 'everything is cringe' phase of being a teenager though. :lol:

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