TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I think Fonesca would be an exciting appointment, but then reality hits when I remember the dreadful squad we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Fwiw Farves odds have drastically dropped tonight aswel, Howe now at best odds of 6/1. Edited October 19, 2021 by Charlies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 would ideally love a defensive coach initially. we really need to get that sorted and then build the team on top of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Charlies said: Fwiw Farves odds have drastically dropped tonight aswel, Howe now at best odds of 6/1. Bookies making a fortune Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, huss9 said: would ideally love a defensive coach initially. we really need to get that sorted and then build the team on top of that. Fuck that. Which current top managers are defensive minded? As has been pointed out previously, a decent manager can be both attack minded AND defensively competent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: Fuck that. Which current top managers are defensive minded? As has been pointed out previously, a decent manager can be both attack minded AND defensively competent. I think our strength is more in forward areas and so we probably actually need someone that can make the most of that and that can sometimes be the best form of defence in actuality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I'm at the stage now where I don't really care who it is. Just excited to see how somebody new would set the team up and get the best out of certain players who we know are capable of better. I know it's easy to look at our goals against column and say we need a defensive minded manager but the whole set up of our team is utterly shambolic at the moment, it's set up to do basically nothing except get the ball to ASM. We don't do anything particularly well so I'm fairly convinced any of the main names mentioned will improve us by not being stuck in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think our strength is more in forward areas and so we probably actually need someone that can make the most of that and that can sometimes be the best form of defence in actuality. We have good attackers, in spite of having no clear attacking plan or identity we have outscored quite a few sides in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Regarding Fonseca, found this. Love owt like these videos, fascinated by in depth tactical stuff personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think our strength is more in forward areas and so we probably actually need someone that can make the most of that and that can sometimes be the best form of defence in actuality. How many times have we had over 50% possession in the last 4 years? I think we're in for a rude awakening if we think someone's gonna come in and turn that round with a squad that's geared towards playing on the counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It's going to be a very slow build and a lot of very reactionary knackers are going to be hugely disappointed and likely very embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) We've still got 10.games to play against the traditional top 6 (except Leicester) and then there's alot of handy and settled teams outside of that, so not sure we're gonna blow teams away with like of ASM, Almiron, Willock and Wilson like we think we might. Edited October 19, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Yeah, very much in favour of getting in a manager who's going to play attacking football. Bring in some exciting young talent, make football fun for NUFC fans again. In a couple of years when we've built a really strong squad we might have to look at Howe or Fonseca or whoever and assess if they have what it takes to actually push on and win things, maybe at that point someone a bit more defensively adept might be the way to go. We don't have to hire our manager for the next decade right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: How many times have we had over 50% possession in the last 4 years? I think we're in for a rude awakening if we think someone's gonna come in and turn that round with a squad that's geared towards playing on the counter. Leeds, Man Utd and Spurs aside it's been fairly even this season tbf. So 5/8. Still not great. Thing is though, players like Schar, the right choices in midfield and attack would help with this despite not being played by Bruce. Agree it'll take time to change our style and will take at least 2 windows before we see huge change. Rodgers was able to change Leicester from a counter attacking orientated side to a possession based one in 1 window, though he had far better players than us to originally work with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 If its Campos and Fonseca it was well worth the wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I'd feel a lot more optimistic going forward if it was Fonseca rather than Favre or Howe, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: We've still got 10.games to play against the traditional top 6 (except Leicester) and then there's alot of handy and settled teams outside of that, so not sure we're gonna blow teams away with like of ASM, Almiron, Willock and Wilson like we think we might. I think you may be surprised. We have no semblence of any plan or identity either going forward or defensively. We sit off teams in spite of clearly not being coached well enough defensively and our attacking plan is pass the ball to Saint-Maximin and hope he runs past 3 or 4 defenders before assisting Wilson. A new manager will change that because Bruce is just that bad, Villa is a prime example. Look at the mess they were under Bruce, they bring in Dean Smith from Brentford and he completely turns them around. Fonseca can do that imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: I think Fonesca would be an exciting appointment, but then reality hits when I remember the dreadful squad we have. I just watched a YT video about how Fonseca's Roma squad play. It looks really exciting but we don't have the MF for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Consortium of one said: I just watched a YT video about how Fonseca's Roma squad play. It looks really exciting but we don't have the MF for it .....yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: I think you may be surprised. We have no semblence of any plan or identity either going forward or defensively. We sit off teams in spite of clearly not being coached well enough defensively and our attacking plan is pass the ball to Saint-Maximin and hope he runs past 3 or 4 defenders before assisting Wilson. A new manager will change that because Bruce is just that bad, Villa is a prime example. Look at the mess they were under Bruce, they bring in Dean Smith from Brentford and he completely turns them around. Fonseca can do that imo. I guess we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 13 hours ago, gdm said: It’s here now too Who was the poster who had an absolutely visceral and irrational hatred of Eddie Howe, like to the point it wasn't normal to hate any manager that much who hadn't destroyed your own club? For him it'd be like the episode of the Twilight Zone where that guy gets all the time to read all the books in the world and then breaks his glasses. "Newcastle have infinite wealth..." Yay! "but..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Gallowgate End. Rafa Facts on twitter Was it Burnsie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Be gutted with Howe - didn't he take Bournemouth down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Also not happy about Howe. Overrated - as are most British managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: Gallowgate End. Rafa Facts on twitter Was it Burnsie? Yep. Is also Mouth of the Tyne on Twitter too. Easily distinguishable due to the weird way he writes. A massive fucking weirdo and a really horrid person too. Has had so many burner accounts as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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