Joey Linton Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, KaKa said: Looks like we offered him a 3 year deal as opposed to the one year extension from Liverpool so I would imagine that was the motivation for him. Not a single one of these kids we get from other clubs ever work out. This club is impossibly bad at bringing through young players. Can't even do it by accident occasionally. We'll never beat that deal we gave Curtis Good only to never play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Wasn't there a hooha about signing that kid from Chelsea that we've now just released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 O’Connor from Arsenal too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, toon25 said: Wasn't there a hooha about signing that kid from Chelsea that we've now just released It just shows how bad our youth set up is - that we sign 'cast offs' from other clubs, who are hyped up but ultimately leave with a whimper after a few years. Shoddy. Mind, i wish this latest lad well - lets hope he bucks the trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 You just know that Lee Charnley has the "out of contract" filter on his computer permanently switched on. Every now and then he moves it to "has a release clause". God forbid we ever attempt to pay the going rate for a quality player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, toon25 said: Wasn't there a hooha about signing that kid from Chelsea that we've now just released Kyle Scott? Knew he'd be shite tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 let ritchie go and get willems in. wouldnt make any dent in the "warchest" as willems would be likley on less wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 and also this whole "warchest" thing. making it like we're going into battle with the other premiership clubs to push on this season. we all know its about just staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Geordie said: It just shows how bad our youth set up is - that we sign 'cast offs' from other clubs, who are hyped up but ultimately leave with a whimper after a few years. Shoddy. Mind, i wish this latest lad well - lets hope he bucks the trend. Thats what I never understand about us, we spunk 10M on bench warmers like Muto when it would be much better spent improving the wheelie bins and paddling pools at the academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, huss9 said: let ritchie go and get willems in. wouldnt make any dent in the "warchest" as willems would be likley on less wages. normally I would say no brainier as you would get money coming in and as you say probably save wages. Also think most would agree that Willems would have been ahead of Ritchie when he was here. However, the fact that he has not played any games (I don’t think he has anyway or certainly very very few) since the injury has me thinking it’s just too much of a risk signing, unless it was a structured deal with an initial 1 year attached. The fact he would obviously be looking for a longer deal, means in my opinion anyway I would not take the risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, huss9 said: and also this whole "warchest" thing. making it like we're going into battle with the other premiership clubs to push on this season. we all know its about just staying up. Media should really just call it a survival fund rather than a war chest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Beth said: Thats what I never understand about us, we spunk 10M on bench warmers like Muto when it would be much better spent improving the wheelie bins and paddling pools at the academy. Still got to have a squad though. There’s zero point having 21st century wheelie bins, and only 15 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Manxst said: Still got to have a squad though. There’s zero point having 21st century wheelie bins, and only 15 players. Could stick one of the bins on instead of shelvey though and best of both worlds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Signing Armstrong must be a no-brainer. £5-8M for a 24 year old local lad who's just scored 28 goals in the championship is just too good to say no to. I would do a deal even if the price would go up to £10-12M. Much better option than Gayle, Carroll and Joelinton who all should be sold imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 They want £25m for him, so in reality he’s cost £12-£15m at best even with the 40% sell on. Much more likely that Ashley would want to pocket the £10m sell on fee and sign someone like Josh King for nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, bowlingcrofty said: They want £25m for him, so in reality he’s cost £12-£15m at best even with the 40% sell on. Much more likely that Ashley would want to pocket the £10m sell on fee and sign someone like Josh King for nowt. The papers say the price is down at £8M. So with the 40% sell on that would be £4,8M. But my guess is it will take more, so maybe a bid at £10-12M would do for us I think. Rather we sign Arma instead of King! Edited June 20, 2021 by Toon No9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Armstrong isn't good enough for the PL. I expect Toney to struggle as well. They're basically just younger Dwight Gayles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Armstrong got player of the year ahead of Toney. While I get the reservations, particularly based on his physical stature, I think it's unfair to write him off before he's has a chance in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, Beth said: Armstrong isn't good enough for the PL. I expect Toney to struggle as well. They're basically just younger Dwight Gayles. Both have potential to improve and both deserve their chance. I'd bet my last pound both of them would score more goals than Joelinton and Gayle has with the same number of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: Both have potential to improve and both deserve their chance. I'd bet my last pound both of them would score more goals than Joelinton and Gayle has with the same number of games. Barring a miraculous step up from them both they aren't going to improve much now. Yes they'd score more than Joelinton...but so would Gayle if played, as would Carroll if not permanently injured. Would rather take a chance on one of the youth lot being the next Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: Barring a miraculous step up from them both they aren't going to improve much now. Yes they'd score more than Joelinton...but so would Gayle if played, as would Carroll if not permanently injured. Would rather take a chance on one of the youth lot being the next Rooney I wasn't talking about them playing for us btw. Toney is only 25 and deserves the chance we will get with Brentford. Armstrong is only 24 and well worth a gamble for some PL club. IMO of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Armstrong got player of the year ahead of Toney. While I get the reservations, particularly based on his physical stature, I think it's unfair to write him off before he's has a chance in the PL. It would be wrong to write both of them off, unless you’re NUFC of course… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 The fee is proving a problem for Armstrong, even with our "discount". I reckon we're more likely to take the risk of waiting a year and getting him for nothing when his contract is up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) Anyone believe there's any truth behind the Freddy Woodman and Joe Willock swap deal? I'd love Willock back, and although I believe Woodman will go onto become a great keeper, we really are covered well with Dubravka/Darlow Edited June 20, 2021 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Not a chance given that it'll also involve some of the 'transfer warchest' coin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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