Guest HTT II Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, jonny1403 said: That's like saying Dwight Gayle is more creative than Isaac Hayden. Technically correct but they play different positions. One of them is finished as a player and has been for years and the other is a solid enough PL CM. I disagree, I think Hayden is a Championship player, as are most of our players especially at the back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 This is fucking mental, we're talking about like real players here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I would take Umtiti, Ramsey and PEA on loan. No question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 If Ramsey comes in and gets 5 goals between now and May then does bugger all the rest of his career, it’d be one of the most important things to happen to us in our history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 A short term loan deal would be the most sensible option for Ramsey, but if he gets injured it's simply a waste of a squad number. We need players to hit the ground running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: If Ramsey comes in and gets 5 goals between now and May then does bugger all the rest of his career, it’d be one of the most important things to happen to us in our history. If he was guaranteed to do that it would be a no-brainer. Question is how much are we willing to gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Highly tempted to quote my own post, but Digne is already on such high wages that most suitors can't afford him mid-season after a lockdown-affected season. Chelsea have the added bonus of a ex-academy star full back on the other side (Reece James) who'll be on buttons and chomping at the bit for higher wages like their veteran full backs, Chilwell, and what would be Digne. Mason Mount is probably still on Academy money too. Digne wouldn't affect our wage structure because most of our players need to be out the door, not placated and secured on longer deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 With Ramsey, perhaps if he wore a Wales shirt under a Black and White one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Ramsey for free and on wages similar to Trippier would be a no brainer to me. Better than every other CM we have even if there are question marks on his current mentality and fitness over in Italy. Fact is, Eddie Howe strikes me as someone who isn't going to allow any new players to come in and ruin the vibe he's building internally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 What's Ramsey's injury record this past year, like? I'm quite certain we'd stay clear of anyone made of Pringles. Ramsey, Umtiti, Wilshere aren't the sort who'd help us avoid relegation. Young, hungry, fit winners is what we should be after. Players with no baggage. Can't imagine having a string of bad results and then having a Galactico throw a strop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Please god, no signings like Ramsay and Umtiti. We’re not a dumping ground for underperforming/finished players on massive contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, Emotic said: What's Ramsey's injury record this past year, like? I'm quite certain we'd stay clear of anyone made of Pringles. Ramsey, Umtiti, Wilshere aren't the sort who'd help us avoid relegation. Young, hungry, fit winners is what we should be after. Players with no baggage. Can't imagine having a string of bad results and then having a Galactico throw a strop. Players like that need to be looked at towards the end of the window. It'd be nice to add them to the mix when we've secured the core. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I reckon we will take a punt on a ‘big name’ at some point, 100%. Even just for the sake of our profile more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) I rarely venture out of General Chat / Games these days but whoever mentioned Wilshire... top bait, well done. What the actual fuck Edited January 5, 2022 by Elric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: If he's willing to take a substantial pay cut I'd entertain the idea. Performance related bonuses to incentivise him. He's in a position to wait for somebody else to match his wages, but would anybody be prepared to? If he can’t get up for playing for Juventus the last couple of years he isn’t coming in to a relegation battle and hitting the ground running. It’s too much of a risk. We have half a season to get out of the shit. Players need to be ready from the off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: If Ramsey comes in and gets 5 goals between now and May then does bugger all the rest of his career, it’d be one of the most important things to happen to us in our history. If Ramsey came in and managed to play 5 games between now and May it would be a highlight for him to retire on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, McCormick said: Please god, no signings like Ramsay and Umtiti. We’re not a dumping ground for underperforming/finished players on massive contracts. Exactly this. We should be avoiding this way of going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, gdm said: If he can’t get up for playing for Juventus the last couple of years he isn’t coming in to a relegation battle and hitting the ground running. It’s too much of a risk. We have half a season to get out of the shit. Players need to be ready from the off. I wouldn't be making him a priority. He wants to leave, Juve want to give him away. If we have space towards the end of the window, and we have secured our targets then I'd take a punt on somebody like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 hours ago, thomas said: still years away I reckon, so while I agree in principle I'm also not opposed to the odd high quality journeymen or two coming in on 2-3 year contracts while we build Again, that's fine, I don't need players to believe they're going to be there when we lift the first trophy (fingers crossed) but especially now I don't want anyone that will see the first sign of struggle as time to down tools and wait out the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Only thing with Ramsey is the position we are in we are still looking at angles - contracts expiring, out of favour - and it being January, were not deploying the original plan for me or a showcasing an ethos. Were it the summer and we were safe I'd much rather not. Figure anything we bring in is an improvement and gives us more of a chance at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) We should be avoiding players like Coutinho, Ramsey and PEA. Once quality players, now on the decline and looking for a payday. Edited January 5, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Players like that need to be looked at towards the end of the window. It'd be nice to add them to the mix when we've secured the core. I'd hope our "end of window" signings would be from that spectacular buffet of superb players who'd be free to walk away for free in the Summer - and not a bunch of flawed big names. We've got a bit of money and clubs would rather get some money than lose the player for nowt in six months. Ginter, Lingard, Sule, Dybala, Kessie etc. If they haven't moved by the last week of January, their clubs may be tempted by a reasonably large offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: We should be avoiding plsyers like Coutinho, Ramsey and PEA. Once quality players, now on the decline and looking for a payday. Completely agree. As mentioned above, if Ramsey was to come in as a loan at the end of the window with us already having signed another CM, fair enough. But as our only option I'd steer well clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: We should be avoiding plsyers like Coutinho, Ramsey and PEA. Once quality players, now on the decline and looking for a payday. We should, I feel the more sensible signings will be coming from our 20% stakeholders, where as any daft signing or ‘trophy’ signing may come from PIF, I’ve been told a few times they would sanction a massive statement signing like a Coutinho or Dembele or PEA as he’s being mentioned now. I’d prefer sensible, but quality signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 A half fit Ramsey is still better looking and a better footballer than all our other midfielders, J7 aside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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